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Sasquamo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 828 |
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I've noticed that on this site a lot of people seem to dislike James Labrie's singing. I've been listening to a little Dream Theater, and I don't really see anything too wrong with his singing. I'm not saying I really like his vocals or Dream Theater, but I don't see what's so bad about him. I searched the site, and found a lot about how people don't like his singing, but nothing that really said why exactly they don't like it.
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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They're jealous.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 37233 |
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It's theCheese factor.
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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OK, I'll start... He's OK if he sings in a lower register, as he does on "Train of Thought". When he hits the higher notes, though, the results are often excruciating, as in "Take the Time" (even the studio version, not to mention his utterly awful performance on "Once in a Livetime"). I'll readily admit there are much worse singers around, but I think DT would sound much better with another vocalist. He just irritates the heck out of me... I think it's a good enough explanation.
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Visitor13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
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His singing gets terribly, terribly maudlin at times, it just smells of cheese a mile away.
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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![]() I was thinking about starting a thread like this one. Today when I checked the forum I found three threads in one screen with the following topics: - What to do what to do...**RUSH*** vocals - Replacing LaBrie - Hogarth singing Fish songs Struck me as kind of silly, but I guess the hype of the month is 'singers you (don't) like', just like we had 'Dream Theaters you (don't) love' over the past three months. ![]() Anyway, here's my reaction to these three threads, and this one as well: - What to do what to do...**RUSH*** vocals Two options: either accept Geddy the way he is and depending on your personal preference listen or don't. Rush without Geddy is not Rush, that's for sure after 30 years... - Replacing LaBrie Same as above, substitute Geddy with James and Rush with Dream Theater. Oh, and change 30 years into 'almost 26' - Hogarth singing Fish songs Hogarth can sing Fish songs, but he can never replace him 1-on-1. They're two people, two very different persons and vocally they are a lot further apart than for instance John Oliva and Zack Stevens (Savatage). Accept it. - Why don't people like James Labrie's vocals? Most likely because it's too over the top for some - I have to agree that he is close to the edge of what he's vocally capable of on some tracks, but he does know how to sing - and sometimes gets a chance to show it. Well, tomorrow it's october, so I'm curious as to what next month's hype is going to bring us... ![]() Edited by Angelo - September 30 2006 at 14:52 |
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I hold the completely opposite side. When he's singing in his trained operatic voice he's amazing and fits the band perfectly. However, when he tries to be this tough leather wearing, James Hetfield type it's laughable. First, his voice isn't structured to be singing like that and it comes out sounding so strained, forced, and unnatural. Also, he can't get the grit or rasp needed in his voice to pull off singing like he tries on ToT for example. He had a nice return to form on some moments in Octavarium which is what made so enjoyable.
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RomanticWarrior ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 22 2006 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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"i dont like his singing cause he hits high notes" <<< ridiculous...those reviews on LaBries singing are lame just dont give em any attention..
Now the real problem with LaBrie concerning his style is mainly after 93' injury i would say...
Apart from loosing his volume , what actually was the main problem with LaBrie was his lack of feeling in the songs...Thats why "Progressive Metal" fits way better in Dream Theater than "Progressive Rock", LaBrie could never be a Rock singer...i mean Neal Morse could actually be a rock singer for that matter...
Just an example, "TAKE AWAY MY PAIN" song from Falling into Infinity.... Freddie Mercury would have turned that song into something..LaBrie made it "another track"...that kind of sucks also...
So if you dont mind those 2 things and the fact he sings perfect, and uses mainly the same technique for every lyric doesnt matter if its about death, or love...than i guess its okey :)...you could say he's an awesome singer...you should also check out Leonardo The Absolute Man, or either Ayreons projects that includes him...get any of it cause it sounds pretty similar...Elements of Persuasion is also a very enjoyable disc...
Stay Classy
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glass house ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 16 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4986 |
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When he hits his high notes his pronounciation stops being understandable. It just gets very annoying. He drags his notes and it is just not a pleasant sound. His singing in The Human Equation is almost bearable.
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Selkie ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: September 27 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 80 |
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I agree on the James Hetfield impersonations. Any of LaBrie's attempts at rapping are also quite disastrous. Some of his mannerisms when singing over mellow sections really irritate me, especially that fake vibrato he uses at low volume for dramatic effect.
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Philéas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
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I don't like him very much because I can't hear a word of what he sings
when he's singing high notes. It's very irritating. But when he doesn't
wail too much he's fine, and strangely enough I like his James Hetfield
impressions (although he fails at sounding like him). I also like Geddy
Lee's high-pitched vocals very much (probably because I can hear what
he sings).
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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easy... I don't like the sound of his voice... and he has been SO MUCH FUN to pick on. A microcosm of Dream Theater... great instrumental skills that sound overproduced and sterile, that is when you can actally hear them (ahem...Myung), and wasted on crappy music. ![]() ![]() |
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moreitsythanyou ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: April 23 2006 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 11682 |
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I'll admit his voice gets annoying when he gets too "metally" if you know what I mean (ie 6:00) but on the vast majority of Dream Theater's work, I just don't see everyone's complaints.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18578 |
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I'd be interested in hearing Jeff Scott Soto sing with Dream Theater. The guy's got terrific pipes. Instead, he's singing in...Journey.
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7950 |
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He's a good singer, but not from those whose voice could be instantly recognized, at least for my ears.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Swanhild ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 09 2006 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 133 |
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Ditto; I can't help smiling to myself when he does that. Also, he is not good at rapping. But apart from this, he is OK; not great but OK; I like his singing for example in Metropolis I. |
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epifreak ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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Initially, LaBrie's voice was very offputting for me when I checked out DT. At the time I was nearing the edge of my "Yay! 80's" phase. I was used to the high pitched vocals present in Iron Maiden. I found Images and Words in a pawn shop for like $2, so having heard good things about the band, I thought I'd give it a try. Primarily, LaBrie's voice was too nasal for my tastes. When I compared it to Maiden, I noted that the vocals in Maiden were high, but stayed clearly out of the nose; whereas DT seemed locked in them.
Within a month or two, the album worked its way out of my cd collection into the "old albums" shoebox in my closet. I eventually found my way to proper prog, not through DT, but through Opeth (found Deliverance for like $5 at On Cue's going out of business clearout in my hometown about 4 years ago.) This lasted up until last year, when I impulsively grabbed a bunch of DT tracks (I was looking for some instrumental cheese) off of my college's network. It hit the backlogs of winamp until I happened to stumble across A Change of Seasons. That changed everything; the track was incredible in every way (yes, even vocals). Listening to that enough, I got used to LaBrie's voice, and have enjoyed the band ever since. So the moral of this story IMO (besides I've gotten some great deals on cds) is that LaBrie's voice is an acquired taste, much like Dave Mustaine's (Megadeth), Dani Filth's (Cradle of Filth), or John Davis's (Korn). |
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Arrrghus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5296 |
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People don't like LaBrie because he's too talented for them.
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Count me in this group. |
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