Death

philippe wrote: and together we summon the devil!!

Back, fiend, or I'll pour holy water on ye!

I think good Death Metal may hold similar iconoclastic values as ELP and VdGG F.Ex. Death metal doesn't also need to do anything with service of satan. Check BLACK WIDOW's "Sacrifice" from the archives!

Poll Question: Should Death be on progarchives??
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
YES	16	[41.03%]
NO	9	[23.08%]
DON’T KNOW THAT BAND	14	[35.90%]

It's a tight race!

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Coya wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: King of Loss wrote: How can you call a band that is hailed mostly in the DEATH METAL SCENE as Progressive Metal? Geez......... Listen to them - they're quite complex. Too complex to be reduced to Death Metal, a bit like Cynic. Death Metal does not reduce anyone. Prog is not a quality, it is a style, and if a band plays mainly death metal with prog influences, then it's as simple as that, death metal with prog influences. Everyone can make complex music without being prog. F***ing superiority complexes!! I didn't mean to bash Death Metal. But the general Death Metal style is not about complexity, more about brutal thrashing and growling. Every complex Death Metal band is described with an adjective like complex or progressive.

Well, actually most of the death metal bands aren't really good, but the extraordinary ones, or at least most of them, are really technical and complex, like Cryptopsy or Nile; and of course Death.

Death seem s to be having a King Crimson thing going on, different lineup on each album, all anchored by one brilliant guitarist who is the ONLY one on all the albums and pretty much is the boss of the show. I voted yes, they kick ass.

Well, I added them yesterday.

Although the many musicians in this band were very good at what they do, and the sound of the band is indeed due to them, one cannot escape the fact that Death was a one man band created and maintained by Chuck Schuldiner RIP, as everyone into this band should know. You can read his personal statements in the booklets of the albums. For instance in the booklet of Human there is his phrase - "this is more than an album for me, it is a statement it is revenge" (something in those lines) In addition every album after spiritual healing has the phrase support music not rummors because of Chuck's personal experience in that field with magazines and other slizzy bashers.

Hence, no more death albums, especially if it is to be determined by his family and his dominant mother, Jane who hold now all the rights to his songs along with the record companies.

This raises an interesting question: I love all their albums. However, only from Human do the progressive elements show up. So if I review Spiritual Healing (which is a great death metal album) than I am compelled to give it a 1-2 star review, which is not in accordance with my feelings towards this album. Ahh, life is hard...

^ thanks avestin ... I also used this link when I added Death:

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=2368

Great resource for infos about Chuck, Death and Control Denied.

About the ratings: We need some definitive guidelines on how the rating in the archives should reflect the progressiveness of the album. So far the consensus seems to be that the 5 star rating is reserved for progressive albums. I think that anyone is free to rate any album in the archives the way he/she wants to. But my own approach to this problem is simply to remove one star from my genre-independent rating.

BTW: Of course you're right about the progressive elements only showing up on Human and the newer albums - I also mention that in the biography.

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MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ thanks avestin ... I also used this link when I added Death: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=2368 Great resource for infos about Chuck, Death and Control Denied. About the ratings: We need some definitive guidelines on how the rating in the archives should reflect the progressiveness of the album. So far the consensus seems to be that the 5 star rating is reserved for progressive albums. I think that anyone is free to rate any album in the archives the way he/she wants to. But my own approach to this problem is simply to remove one star from my genre-independent rating. BTW: Of course you're right about the progressive elements only showing up on Human and the newer albums - I also mention that in the biography.

I apologize on my rudeness, I didn't say what a good job you did on their inclusion, sorry.

 

Melodic Thrash? You're not a metal man I presume. That is the kind of talk of someone not into metal. I hear that a lot from Progheads that listen to metal and think because their music is superior to everything else they know all other froms of music and its categorization and allow themselves to just bash anything that doesn't sound like the music they like.

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