Election 2012 (USA)

Obama = Romney

If I was in the States, it would've been Obama. As an Israeli, there's a definite side of me that would prefer Romney and his more pro-Israel views (though Obama isn't anti-Israel, really). Even though Romney's side might be a bit too one-sided in order to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict....... 

Epignosis wrote: Obama = Romney

The question is will this open up movement to the left & right of the establishment?

So far, all leftward and rightward motion flows back into the two parties, like the Tea Party and Occupy.

I guess it depends on there being alternative options that seem credible to people. Too bad, because there aren't any right now.





Edited by RoyFairbank - May 15 2012 at 12:03

Slartibartfast wrote: stonebeard wrote: I tried "making a statement" last election with Barr. . Who Rosanne? Epignosis wrote: Obama - reproductive freedom - aid for the poor - killing Osama - saving the auto industry - all regulation on Wall Street = Romney   fixed

Women have reproductive freedom.  The question is, who pays for the condoms and pills, Obama or us?
Osama bin Laden was killed.  The question is, who paid for it, Obama or us?
The auto industry was "saved."  Who paid for it, Obama or us?
Businesses are regulated.  Who pays for that, Obama or us?

Are you an atheist?  I think you believe that Presidents are gods.

Presidents aren't gods and elections have consequences even if there isn't enough difference between the two candidates.  The notion that the left is as radicalized as the right these days is utter nonsense.

Slartibartfast wrote: Presidents aren't gods and elections have consequences even if there isn't enough difference between the two candidates.  The notion that the left is as radicalized as the right these days is utter nonsense.

 

Lovely.  So you're "informed" and those who disagree with you are "mindless" in their voting. Gotcha.  And you're not being "condescending" there. 

You are one of them.  The reason I probably sound condesending is that I legitimately do not have one shred of respect for you.  You've managed to work your way right down to zero.  I mean, you try to save your earlier post (in which you continue your asinine assertion that you're not a sterotype then immediately spew the "lesser of two evils" garbage") by posting a cartoon mocking Obama's employment record and bloodthirsty nature.  Yes, the guy is using drones to murder all kinds of people overseas but that's ok because...you know....uh....lesser of two evils.  You are all talk when it comes to politics.  There's no credibility to you even on issues we supposedly agree on because at the end of the day you don't vote on any issue but D or R.  The only thing Obama could have done to lose your vote was switch parties.

manofmystery wrote: You are one of them.  The reason I probably sound condesending is that I legitimately do not have one shred of respect for you.  You've managed to work your way right down to zero.  I mean, you try to save your earlier post (in which you continue your asinine assertion that you're not a sterotype then immediately spew the "lesser of two evils" garbage") by posting a cartoon mocking Obama's employment record and bloodthirsty nature.  Yes, the guy is using drones to murder all kinds of people overseas but that's ok because...you know....uh....lesser of two evils.  You are all talk when it comes to politics.  There's no credibility to you even on issues we supposedly agree on because at the end of the day you don't vote on any issue but D or R.  The only thing Obama could have done to lose your vote was switch parties.

Your lack of respect has been obvious it isn't anything new.  Neither is your inability to appreciate the fact that the reasons why I vote D instead of R is because of political positions not party.  You can't accept that because it doesn't fit your narrative and so you turn to condescension and disrespect because you can't honestly counter my arguments and at the end of the day that is all you have in your arsenal combined with the blanket dismissal of my positions as being disingenuous, insincere, or lacking in credibility.

The reason that I posted Ted Rall's cartoon is to engage in a futile effort to point out to you that there are those of us, however you want to categorize our political beliefs, that aren't all lockstep "Obama can do no wrong".  There are plenty of critics.  Still a McCain Palin administration or a Romney Ryan administration would have and would be more detrimental to this country than Obama's despite all its shortcomings.  You can't have your fantasy candidate Ron Paul in the presidency any more than I could have Bernie Sanders.  The lesser of two evils isn't garbage it's the reality you have to deal with. 




Edited by Slartibartfast - May 19 2012 at 07:54

Thing is Slart, you only bash one side and not the other.
Comes off as partsian
Even in your "I'm not partisan" you come off as, well partisan.

You never seem to actually bash the other side. "We're not all lock step with Obama" isn't really much
So you must understand where we come from, you present yourself as hardcore Democrat supporter.
If so just admit it, but if you area kind of unhappy with them/they're the lesser of 2 evils...vote with your heart Slart.

Write in Sanders