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Topic: PoS Road Salt One - I Don't "Get" It Posted: March 29 2011 at 09:07
I love Road Salt, the best album they have done, in my opinion, i think they do better, when not beeing the awfully "hard", maby other bands do progressive/heavy as good or better than they do, not that many able to make a record like this one, soft and powerfull mixed nicely, without any of the cheap heavyrock effects, that you find all over the place these days.
A supreem rock album, with a bit of many styles on it, something i generaly think is possetive.
Would rate it 4+ something, disregarding how prog it is, but you are right its not very prog., so i'we desided not to rate it at all, as i cant rate it for what it is, prog-related.
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Posted: March 17 2011 at 05:40
Road Salt 1 is interesting for sure... as a fan of all types of music from led zeppelin to beardfish to Opeth, I don't care whether the album is prog enough or metal enough. The point is the songs just aren't up to PoS standard. A few of them rock out, and none of them are bad, but they aren't compelling as we expect from PoS.
I myself though BE and Scarsick were great albums (especially BE).
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 23:42
Yeah, perhaps. But at least on the surface Gildenlow presents with a lot more altruism, even if it is at times overstated and crassly delivered (Scarsick).
Both come off as quite the egomaniac if you ask me, but then again narcissism and great songwriters seem to have a thing going. I'm not here to judge them based off their personas.
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 21:13
Even when taken out of the context of the albums concept, it comes nowhere close to Waters "Rock opera for all the women who hate me because i'm too deep"
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:29
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^^^ Is Be that bad? I just ordered that.... RS1 is one album that is getting a lot of flack online and I wonder if its because the band are just trying something different to have some verstatility in their music ... nothing wrong with a bit of experimentation. They dont want to stagnate into the same style. The documentary on the Ending Themes DVd specifically states from the band that they do want each album to be completely different. Hopefully that wont affect their music too much.
The live version of Be is the better of the 2 IMHO. I think the point of it comes through on the DVD. Like I said, much of the disdain I see comes from it being less metal than previous albums. And comparisons to The Wall are not completely off base, but I find Gildenlow to be a bit less self-indulgent than Waters.
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:16
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~Rael~ wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
The poor quality is exactly one of the things I dislike about RS1. It's one thing to have a a bit of grit in your recording; it's another to make it sound like it was recorded in a garage.
And I've never understood the hatred Scarsick gets. I can understand someone not liking it, but least favorite CD of the decade? I grant that not all the songs are good, but some are excellent.
Poor quality? The recording on RS1 is brilliant, with a deliberat attempt at making it sound like it was from the 1970's.m I think they succeded brilliantly in that regard.
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:01
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It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
The poor quality is exactly one of the things I dislike about RS1. It's one thing to have a a bit of grit in your recording; it's another to make it sound like it was recorded in a garage.
And I've never understood the hatred Scarsick gets. I can understand someone not liking it, but least favorite CD of the decade? I grant that not all the songs are good, but some are excellent.
Poor quality? The recording on RS1 is brilliant, with a deliberat attempt at making it sound like it was from the 1970's.m I think they succeded brilliantly in that regard.
I think RS1 is an excellent album, and I think the problem with PoS is that they're like Krispy Kreme donughts, you know they're tasty but not everyone likes all the flavours, while others will scoff down the whole lot and not regret a thing
BE is grandiose to say the least so it might rub some the wrong way. Think of it as PoS' "The Wall." The band really hit their stride with TPE and it culminated into BE. Much like WYWH-The Wall was PF creative crescendo imo. Like everything in life eventually things start to go downhill after a peak and if you're extremely lucky you get a second chance. Again, even though I don't like the direction they're headed, at least they're not stagnating like so many others have succumb to. It's a glimmer of hope that someday they'll find a new sound where the planets align for them.
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Posted: March 13 2011 at 18:43
^^^ Is Be that bad? I just ordered that.... RS1 is one album that is getting a lot of flack online and I wonder if its because the band are just trying something different to have some verstatility in their music ... nothing wrong with a bit of experimentation. They dont want to stagnate into the same style. The documentary on the Ending Themes DVd specifically states from the band that they do want each album to be completely different. Hopefully that wont affect their music too much.
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 21:22
Tapfret wrote:
It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
The poor quality is exactly one of the things I dislike about RS1. It's one thing to have a a bit of grit in your recording; it's another to make it sound like it was recorded in a garage.
And I've never understood the hatred Scarsick gets. I can understand someone not liking it, but least favorite CD of the decade? I grant that not all the songs are good, but some are excellent.
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 21:20
Haha, I knew Brokencyde was going to be posted. But there's no debate about that sh*t; it isn't metal.
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 20:06
It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
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