So, I have listened to Road Salt One a couple times. I like it, but after reading some of the reviews here, I feel like I'm missing something. I just can't get into it. It's good, but nothing special as far as I can tell. What really boggles my mind is how it has a 3.59 rating. Now, if this was a rating based only on how much one enjoys a piece of music (and I know that does factor in) it wouldn't be a problem, but the rating is supposed to be based on the progressiveness of the work, and I just can't find much prog in RS1. I'll grant it's more progressive than the average shlock pumped out of radios, but that seems about it. It actually sounds like another indie band, and I hate indie. 

So, I'm hoping someone can explain to me what I'm missing. PoS is one of my all time favorite bands. Hell, I even like Scarsick. If it was any other band, I would probably like the CD more. But this is PoS, and I really want to like it. So, help me, please. Show me the light.

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I don't know, looking at ratings, a 3.59 is pretty good. 4 ratings don't seem to be common, and 4.2 and above ratings are reserved for the best of the best. Hell, none of The Flower Kings' albums even have a 4. 

Well, the rating criteria is listed as follows:

5 stars: Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music

 

Which is why you rate that sh*t low.

 

Though, as far as I know PR has a different criteria list.

Agreed, wholeheartedly. I rated Road Salt low because it wasn't compelling music imo, not based off how "progz" it is. I'm at the point where I'm not concerned about genre labels and to me that's the whole essence of what prog used to be about.  If anything RS1 is more of a prog record than most of the stuff on here. Why you ask? Simple, put on Remedy Lane then put on BE then put on Scarsick then put on Road Salt. Besides Daniel's discernible voice, this could be four entirely different bands. Seems to me prog died the minute it became a specific pinpoint-able sound. So basically I can fully appreciate Daniel's pursuit of a new sound for the band even though it doesn't click with me personally, but sadly he's just not the songwriter he once was which is what's most important first and foremost. And if all that doesn't jive well with someone's "rules" or their text book definition of what "prog" is then they can take a number and get in line to kiss my grits. 

Yeah. It's just a bummer when a band doesn't go in the direction you want it to. It's also exceedingly selfish, but there it is. 

I kind of think Gildenlow should have just made a another band or just gone by his own name for this album (along with Be) because it is so far removed from PoS. I think it might have been better received by a lot of people if that happened. 

Why would Gildenlow release any album from a side project?  It's obvious he wants to show people that POS is going to write what they want and play what they want.  To him, there is no "POS sound."  I see what you're saying from a fan's perspective, but I don't think Gildenlow thinks this way.

If I only had a dollar for every time you've posted about a record you haven't heard ... 

I don't think he does, either. Hell, who knows how his mind works. 

But, I do think there is a PoS sound that has been relatively constant up until RS1. Even in Scarsick we get metal. RS1 just seems to deviate from everything. 

 

The new Decemberists album is slightly above average indie folk IMO. There is absolutely nothing prog about. Not one thing. In the grand scheme of things, I'd give it about 6/10 but I gave it 2 stars and rightly so. No prog fan would want this album unless they're specifically fans of the band. So "fans only" is appropriate.

 

Similarly, I will bump up an album that truly has something new to say even if it's a little raw or has some flaws.

 

 

BTW, you still in St Louis area?

2. If you think that's all metal is now, you're quite ignorant. 

You're going to find more instrumental and writing skill at almost any metal show rather than the played out and exhausted indie formula. 

0. Chill pill broski. It was meant to be lighthearted. 

And I meant professional metal bands, not the local bands that are all carbon copy deathcore. I don't know what band that is, but I generally don't judge a band until I hear it.

But, I do always like that on message boards. Someone insults a genre of music, I respond in kind, and it's all, "Chill out, bro!" Ugh. 

What are you on about? You slammed indie (I'm assuming you mean indie rock and post rock, etc.) and I said it could be worse. Then you somehow mistook it as an insult to metal in general, which it was anything but. 

For starters you said "indie" which is pretty broad term if I may say so myself. Not sure why you mean by "professional", but this band's last album debuted #8 in Top Heatseakers, #35 in Independent (Indie) Albums, and #21 in Hard Rock albums. Don't say I didn't warn you:

A misunderstanding on my part, then. 

As to that video. Yeah, that's pretty horrid. I'm not sure it's even metal though, but that another argument altogether. 

This is still the worst crap I've heard, though:

I never said anything about metal. Twas you who brought it up. 

Attack Attack is pure ear cancer, but  if possible this is worse:

 

The poor quality is exactly one of the things I dislike about RS1. It's one thing to have a a bit of grit in your recording; it's another to make it sound like it was recorded in a garage. 

And I've never understood the hatred Scarsick gets. I can understand someone not liking it, but least favorite CD of the decade? I grant that not all the songs are good, but some are excellent. 

Orly?

I myself though BE and Scarsick were great albums (especially BE). 

 

A supreem rock album, with a bit of many styles on it, something i generaly think is possetive.

Would rate it 4+ something, disregarding how prog it is, but you are right its not very prog., so i'we desided not to rate it at all, as i cant rate it for what it is, prog-related.