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Poll Question: Which is the best release from a progger's opinion
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Yep Phil Collins for Prog Related.

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No prog and no prog related IMHO. Face Value is innovative but not prog the way PA stipulated it.
Drone sounds slightly progressive but one song is not enough to make an artist prog.
 
Don't get me wrong, I do like Phil Collins, his first two albums especially. On the later albums I find some fillers, but I think he has a great sense of melody, and I think most of his albums are good. Well composed, well sung, good band members, good production.
 
Face Value is his most artistic album, but my pick would be Hello, I Must Be Going. On that album a lot of the typical elements of the Phil Collins sound (drum based soul songs, sensitive ballads and Motown swing) are in a wonderful balance.
 
Plus I'm a sucker for his version of The Mindbenders' Groovy Kind Of Love. The cd single from that song is short but wonderful. Big Noise is a wonderful happy swinging song and Will You Still Be Waiting is a lovely syrupy instrumental. Once again, a great balance, and a lot of variety in a time span of less than 10 minutes.
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Points: 732 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 05:07
Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Burn em' all Wink
 
Iván
 
I'll chip in the gas........................Cool
I've got the Zippo, let's do this. Cool

Man.  Reading through this thread so far, let it be said that Iván is tearing sh*t up in here!  My fingers are very relaxed and feel no need to type more. Approve

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

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Well, I got several good albums released in 1981, the same year as Face Value.
 
  1. Avenida Larco - Frágil (The first 100% Prog album in Perú)
  2. Moving Pictures - Rush
  3. Alturas de Macchu Picchu - Loa Jaivas
  4. Mystical Adventures - Jean Luc Ponty (His best release ever IMO)
  5. Asturcon - Asturcon
  6. Familjesprickor - Zamla Mammas Manna (Released at the end of 1980, but reached Perú in 1981)
  7. Long Distance Voyager - Moody Blues (IMO the best Moody album ever)
  8. Between Flesh and Devine - Asia Minor
  9. Divergencie - Collegium Musicum
  10. 1984 - Anthony Phillips
And many more.
 
 
yes, Like
 
Eloy-Planets
Mike Oldfield-QE2
Camel-Nude
Anyone's Daughter-Piktors Verwandlungen
Pererin-Teithgan
Sky-Sky 3
Blue Oyster Cult-Fire of Unknown Origin
Osiris-Osiris
Magdalena (Basque)-Lanean Sartzen
Alan Stivell-Terre Des Vivants
Aigues Vives - Water of Seasons
Franco Battiato - La Voce del Padrone
 
 
not bad, not to mention some good poppy albums by "prog" artists, like Alan Parsons and even Steve Hackett.  I too like Face Value, but other than "In the Air Tonight", nothing even sounds prog related to me
 
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Points: 732 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 14:41
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

not bad, not to mention some good poppy albums by "prog" artists, like Alan Parsons and even Steve Hackett.  I too like Face Value, but other than "In the Air Tonight", nothing even sounds prog related to me
 
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Actually Ken even that song is not prog-related.  It's from a different genre.  Divorce-related.

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 15:38
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

but there were a lot of bands making great Prog and great non Prog albums like
 
  1. High Infidelity - Reo Speedwagoon
  2. Paradise Theater - STYX
  3. For Those About to Rock We Salute You - AC/DC
  4. Ghost in the Machine - The Police
  5. Diary of a Madman - Ozzy Osbourne
  6. High 'N' Dry - Def Leppard
  7. El Loco - ZZ Top
  8. Bella Donna - Stevie Nicks
  9. Tatoo You - Rolling Stones
  10. Turn Back - Toto

So, I had no need for Phil Collins in 1981 (or ever to be honest).

Iván
 
Well we agree then after all; this is exactly the crew that Face Value hangs out with.
Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2009 at 02:46
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Burn em' all Wink
 
Iván
I can't disagree with this assessment.
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Never understood the hatred for Phil, even while in Genesis.  You would think he was a murderer.  Everything I've read about Genesis tells you that Tony Banks is the one in the engine room.  I also think PG gets too much credit within Genesis.  Except for the Lamb,  the lyrics were a group project.  The music on the Lamb was not by PG and he never played anything of consequence except for the rare flute passage in the very early days. 
 
Back to the original thread, he's got  a weak album (Dance),  an album that is too far pop for my liking ( No Jacket) ,  two excellent albums (the first two), one that is pretty close (But Seriously) .  Both Side is very personal and stripped down and while it is not here, Hot Night in Paris is quite good with Phil stretching into Big Band territory.    
 
Hello gets my vote.


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Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

NO knocking the guy, remember he did the most obscure prog with Brand X so let's give him some credit and keep the thread clean.


*struggles to keep mouth shut*
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