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Poll Question: Which one composed better songs or most good songs?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 13:01
How different would this be if it was post-Beatles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 13:06
Ringo for me !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 18:46
My vote would be the same

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2009 at 07:47
"Back then" in my original post referred to the mid 60s before the internet. We got our information from articles and interviews in fan magazines, from radio DJs or simply rumors and opinions spread by word of mouth.
"Back then" people almost demanded that you pick a favorite Beatle and most picked John or Paul because they wrote most of the songs and sang most of the lead vocals. They cleverly agreed to put both their names on the songs they wrote which added to the long standing controversy of "Who's better, John or Paul?".
To answer the "post Beatles" question by crimhead, my vote would change from George to John
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 06:01
Although the Lennon/McCartney handle was used on all the duo's publishing, it is quite transparent as to who wrote what in their vast catalogue. Paul and John collaborated on each other's tunes as if by unshakable habit, and as far as I aware, this practice continued right up to the Beatles split. e.g. Lennon's output is marked by frequent use of diminished/augmented chords and his melodies weave their way in and around the harmonies (which often modulate unconventionally and are considerably more static that Paul's) Macca's songs, by way of contrast, develop along classic conventional harmony lines (e.g Bach) and his chords are in the main, dictated by his melodic choices.

Harrison did contribute significantly to the Beatles output, but I feel his talent was confined to the detail and textural ideas he injected into the arrangements. However, it would be churlish to dismiss someone who wrote 'Something' as a mediocre songwriter wouldn't it ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 11:04
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

How different would this be if it was post-Beatles.
Even though the opening post only lists Beatles songs, there's nothing in the title of the poll that says this should be restricted to Beatles output.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 11:07
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Although the Lennon/McCartney handle was used on all the duo's publishing, it is quite transparent as to who wrote what in their vast catalogue. Paul and John collaborated on each other's tunes as if by unshakable habit, and as far as I aware, this practice continued right up to the Beatles split.
 
True collaboration between the two was the exception to the rule after the early days. They occasionally contributed lyrics and middle eights (e.g. "We can work it out") but worked alone more often than not.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 16:35
What!? Lennon, last. Hum, I'll vote for him.
He's slightly followed by Harrison. Hey what about Love You To?
And McCartney is also nearly following.
 
They're all geniuses.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 16:47
Well, since McCartney is still alive, I'm guessing he could probably take the other two in a fight. Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 17:35
Confused I voted Lennon because he was slightly a bit more adventurous with his songs but McCartney wrote some just as great. They both seem to compliment each other and when they went solo it was like a little of the magic was gone.
 
I prefer Lennons solo stuff the best after they went their own ways.
 
George has some great songs too so don't think I have forgotten him.
 
What about Ringo Otopus's Garden and Don't Pass Me By. Modern music would not be the sameWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 18:14
that is a real toughie....  enjoy Harrison's stuff the most... but a****le that he is... McCartney had the most consistent.. and best output IMO. Plus..damnit.. he had that voice.. Heart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 18:16
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

How different would this be if it was post-Beatles.
Even though the opening post only lists Beatles songs, there's nothing in the title of the poll that says this should be restricted to Beatles output.


that is how I looked at it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:46
Definitely,  John was the main prog factor and he's my personal favorite.  Many great ideas and a superb output.

George was really great as well and is just a very little bit below John.  He composed the best songs (especially ballads) and he played a mean guitar, but things like the bluesy "Savoy Truffle", my absolute Beatles favourite from the early years (1960-1965) "Don't Bother Me",  or the really groovy "Old Brown Shoe" were a bit too seldom.  I don't know if there were more of the more experimental pieces written by George who were rejected by the others,  but John showed a somewhat wider versatility (ballads, rock songs, psychedelic, pop pieces, folk...)

And Paul was the rock part of the group, a genius as well and also just a little bit under John and George.  He could have gained the top of the ranking  if he didn't do so many ballads. But "I've Got A Feeling" or "Getting Better" are also two of my personal favorites.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:50
As far as their solo careers go, I was big fan of Wings but didn't follow Lennon or Harrison really.  Then I became addicted to prog.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2009 at 07:04
I saw McCartney at the L.A. Forum during the Wings Over America tour in the mid 70s. It was the only time I saw one of the Beatles live and it turned out to be a very good show. I especially liked the segment where Paul sat alone on a stool at center stage and did acoustic versions of several Beatle songs.
BTW...it was the first concert I was at that had a laser light show.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2009 at 10:18
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Ringo for me !


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2009 at 13:31
Well it doesn't surprise me that Paul is on top of the prog archives site, since i think he was the proggiest Beatle. 
 
Some people talk post Beatles and how George has the greatest output in that department. I'm not so sure on that. After the Great All Things Must Pass, George's peace loving hari bs really became nauseatingly tiresome. I mean...While My Guitar Gently Smiles.....enough!
 
I like John myself. Personally I feel he had two great solo lps. Imagine and the often overlooked Plastic Ono Band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2009 at 13:55
Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Ringo for me !


I hope you are kidding
 
Kidding? Me?  Well yes a little but I felt sorry for Ringo being left out . It reminded me of the old joke about Ringo not even being the best drummer in the Beatles.Big smile
 
I think the question made the answer for you why not miss Harrison off as well? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 03:22
1) John
2) George
3) MacCartney

With all the respect I have for MacCartney, I find him to stick too often to his poppish style...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2009 at 00:24
Originally posted by fil karada fil karada wrote:

I wont post all the songs composed by each one and I wont post songs that one says is his and the other says its his.


John Lennon:

Come Together
I Want You (She's So Heavy)
Dear Prudence
Happiness Is A Warm Gun
Revolution 1
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Strawberry Fields Forever

Paul McCartney:

Blackbird
Helter Skelter
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
With A Little Help From My Friends
Getting Better
Hey Jude

George Harrison:

Something
Here Comes The Sun
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Within You Without You



-George did only a few songs compared to the ammount McCartney n Lennon did, the ones you put in hie list are some of my Beatles favorites
-Paul is a great great great musician and composer, singer, gosh, Hwlter Skelter still blows my mind, though is the same composer of 'When I'm 64' LOL


I think George is a very underrated beatle
So, I vote for George and Paul
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