Lennon vs McCartney vs Harrison
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Topic: Lennon vs McCartney vs Harrison
Posted By: fil karada
Subject: Lennon vs McCartney vs Harrison
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 20:51
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I wont post all the songs composed by each one and I wont post songs that one says is his and the other says its his. John Lennon: Come Together I Want You (She's So Heavy) Dear Prudence Happiness Is A Warm Gun Revolution 1 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds Strawberry Fields Forever Paul McCartney: Blackbird Helter Skelter Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da With A Little Help From My Friends Getting Better Hey Jude George Harrison: Something Here Comes The Sun While My Guitar Gently Weeps Within You Without You ------------- 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:06
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1) Lennon 2) Mac 3) Georgie boy ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:18
| With all respect to George, it's between Lennon and Mac really. Tough call....I'll go with Mac by the slightest of margins. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:29
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Yeah, it will be interesting to see if George pulls any votes.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:44
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George has my vote. Let's see if I'm the only one. Of course, he did not have the impact or the output of the other two, but all of his songs rank among the Beatles' best. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Lota
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:45
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Tough On!!!!!!!!!! Love the three of Them ------------- And In The End, The Love You Take, Is Equal To The Love You Make |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:47
Well, that didn't take long!!  I like him too, very much. All Things Must Pass is wonderful. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Progosopher wrote:Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:47
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during and post-Beatles I reckon George takes it for some really solid, straightforward work, John close behind and Paul if the hit parade is one's thing |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 23:02
| I go with George, only because While my Guitar Gently Weeps is his, my favourite Beatles song. Also Here comes the Sun is very good. Of Course, he is the one who contributed less songs for the band (not counting Ringo). I think McCartney did a greater amount of good songs for the Beatles. And certainly, Lennon is the one who made the best songs during their solo output. |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 01:08
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I'm glad to see George is keeping up with Paul and John so far. I had read the question as only concerning Beatles songs, and now realize it doesn't. That strengthens my choice. George has clearly had the best output since the breakup IMO. No other post Beatle album stands up to All Things Must Pass, not even Imagine. This is not to put John or Paul down, though. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 12:33
he's got mine and apparently not just mine....
ifyou add George's Badge on the Cream Goodbye album ans My Sweet lord on that list in ther first post (lust so mumùerically it's even), it's no-cinch the winner
he came about late in the Beatles career, but every sing of his starting with Taxman was useful to the group. But the other two didn't realmly wan't to leave him as much space as they were for themselves ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 13:44
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1. John
2. George
3. Paul
I Want You (She's So Heavy), Dear Prudence, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, I am the Walrus and Strawberry Fields Forever belong to my favourite Beatles songs and so does Here Comes the Sun.
John Lennon wins, but George Harrison added an essential touch to the Beatles oeuvre. ------------- 
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 13:44
George doesn't come into it. Paul by a very short straw for me, but it's close. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 14:23
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George made the best songs IMHO, even though he wasn't given much space.
McCartney is an endless source of strong melodies and creative musical ideas, mixing of styles etc.: he would be my nr. 2.
Lennon made the most rootsy, bluesy sounding music of the three, although he also had some psychedelic experiments as well. I like a lot of his contributions, but he would be my least favourite of the three.
For me, they all come close, though.
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Posted By: Sangria
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 16:19
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Harrison (My favorite song of all time is a Harrison written song- Here Comes The Sun) ------------- 
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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:49
| I had to vote for George. He may not match Lennon and McCartney in Quantity of songwriting output, but he certainly does in quality, and in my opinion surpasses both of them in that aspect. But it is a very tough call I must admit. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 05:02
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Lennon, he always did the intresting and experimental stuff. ------------- 
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 08:14
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George. He has less songs than the lennon/mccartney songwriting crew, but his songs were always higher in quality and very underrated.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 08:49
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For many years I considered John Lennon to be my favorite Beatle as far as songwriting, vocal style and experimentation. Back then, in my crowd there was a rule of thumb. If it was love song, it was probably Paul. If it was heavier, more controversial or if it pushed the envelope, it was probably John.
It has already been mentioned that George was not given as many songs per album so when you consider quantity, you realize how good Harrison's contributions were.
If I Needed Someone, Think For Yourself, Taxman, I Want To Tell You, I Me Mine, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Something, etc........quality wins over quantity.
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 11:15
I don't know why most people believe that. Paul was as experimental as John, most of the sound effects on Tomorrow never knows were his contributions, he was mostly responsable for the Sgt Pepper album while the others weren't very interested, he wrote the Beatles heaviest song (Helter Skelter), I think his songwriting was even more diverse than John's, but still people like to believe he only wrote silly love songs. ------------- 
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 13:01
| How different would this be if it was post-Beatles. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 13:06
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Ringo for me ! ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 18:46
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My vote would be the same
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In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made... |
Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 07:47
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"Back then" in my original post referred to the mid 60s before the internet. We got our information from articles and interviews in fan magazines, from radio DJs or simply rumors and opinions spread by word of mouth.
"Back then" people almost demanded that you pick a favorite Beatle and most picked John or Paul because they wrote most of the songs and sang most of the lead vocals. They cleverly agreed to put both their names on the songs they wrote which added to the long standing controversy of "Who's better, John or Paul?".
To answer the "post Beatles" question by crimhead, my vote would change from George to John
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 06:01
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Although the Lennon/McCartney handle was used on all the duo's publishing, it is quite transparent as to who wrote what in their vast catalogue. Paul and John collaborated on each other's tunes as if by unshakable habit, and as far as I aware, this practice continued right up to the Beatles split. e.g. Lennon's output is marked by frequent use of diminished/augmented chords and his melodies weave their way in and around the harmonies (which often modulate unconventionally and are considerably more static that Paul's) Macca's songs, by way of contrast, develop along classic conventional harmony lines (e.g Bach) and his chords are in the main, dictated by his melodic choices. Harrison did contribute significantly to the Beatles output, but I feel his talent was confined to the detail and textural ideas he injected into the arrangements. However, it would be churlish to dismiss someone who wrote 'Something' as a mediocre songwriter wouldn't it ? ------------- 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 11:04
Even though the opening post only lists Beatles songs, there's nothing in the title of the poll that says this should be restricted to Beatles output.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 11:07
True collaboration between the two was the exception to the rule after the early days. They occasionally contributed lyrics and middle eights (e.g. "We can work it out") but worked alone more often than not.
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 16:35
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What!? Lennon, last. Hum, I'll vote for him.
He's slightly followed by Harrison. Hey what about Love You To?
And McCartney is also nearly following.
They're all geniuses. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 16:47
Well, since McCartney is still alive, I'm guessing he could probably take the other two in a fight. 
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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 17:35
 I voted Lennon because he was slightly a bit more adventurous with his songs but McCartney wrote some just as great. They both seem to compliment each other and when they went solo it was like a little of the magic was gone.
I prefer Lennons solo stuff the best after they went their own ways.
George has some great songs too so don't think I have forgotten him.
What about Ringo Otopus's Garden and Don't Pass Me By. Modern music would not be the same  ------------- Matt |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 18:14
that is a real toughie.... enjoy Harrison's stuff the most... but a****le that he is... McCartney had the most consistent.. and best output IMO. Plus..damnit.. he had that voice.. 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 18:16
that is how I looked at it... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Einsetumadur
Date Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:46
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Definitely, John was the main prog factor and he's my personal favorite. Many great ideas and a superb output. George was really great as well and is just a very little bit below John. He composed the best songs (especially ballads) and he played a mean guitar, but things like the bluesy "Savoy Truffle", my absolute Beatles favourite from the early years (1960-1965) "Don't Bother Me", or the really groovy "Old Brown Shoe" were a bit too seldom. I don't know if there were more of the more experimental pieces written by George who were rejected by the others, but John showed a somewhat wider versatility (ballads, rock songs, psychedelic, pop pieces, folk...) And Paul was the rock part of the group, a genius as well and also just a little bit under John and George. He could have gained the top of the ranking if he didn't do so many ballads. But "I've Got A Feeling" or "Getting Better" are also two of my personal favorites. ------------- All in all each man in all men |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:50
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As far as their solo careers go, I was big fan of Wings but didn't follow Lennon or Harrison really. Then I became addicted to prog.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 07:04
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I saw McCartney at the L.A. Forum during the Wings Over America tour in the mid 70s. It was the only time I saw one of the Beatles live and it turned out to be a very good show. I especially liked the segment where Paul sat alone on a stool at center stage and did acoustic versions of several Beatle songs.
BTW...it was the first concert I was at that had a laser light show.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 10:18
I hope you are kidding -------------
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 13:31
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Well it doesn't surprise me that Paul is on top of the prog archives site, since i think he was the proggiest Beatle.
Some people talk post Beatles and how George has the greatest output in that department. I'm not so sure on that. After the Great All Things Must Pass, George's peace loving hari bs really became nauseatingly tiresome. I mean...While My Guitar Gently Smiles.....enough!
I like John myself. Personally I feel he had two great solo lps. Imagine and the often overlooked Plastic Ono Band
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 13:55
Kidding? Me? Well yes a little but I felt sorry for Ringo being left out . It reminded me of the old joke about Ringo not even being the best drummer in the Beatles.
 I think the question made the answer for you why not miss Harrison off as well? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: mono
Date Posted: July 17 2009 at 03:22
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1) John 2) George 3) MacCartney With all the respect I have for MacCartney, I find him to stick too often to his poppish style... ------------- https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else |
Posted By: alanerc
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 00:24
-George did only a few songs compared to the ammount McCartney n Lennon did, the ones you put in hie list are some of my Beatles favorites -Paul is a great great great musician and composer, singer, gosh, Hwlter Skelter still blows my mind, though is the same composer of 'When I'm 64'  I think George is a very underrated beatle So, I vote for George and Paul |