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Slartibartfast
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Topic: The 2008 US Presidential Debates Posted: September 09 2008 at 21:11 |
I thought I'd do a more complex poll...
Edited by Slartibartfast - September 09 2008 at 22:19
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 09 2008 at 21:22 |
I plan on totally ignoring the elections because every candidate sucks this year.
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Drew
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Posted: September 09 2008 at 21:25 |
I was going to post this EXACT thing before I saw the option: What? There's a presidential election going on in the US?
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The T
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 14:21 |
I'm going to watch the debates very carefully... and then ask people to vote for Obama anyway... (I can't vote yet... in two more years... )
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rushfan4
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 14:42 |
I'll probably be at a baseball game and miss them like I did with the conventions.
I tend to be fiscally conservate but socially liberal. And each of the parties does one of these good but really really suck at the other, so it becomes a matter of trying to go all Solomon on myself and deciding which half of me I need to appease and which half of me I need to throw under the wheels.
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Vompatti
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 15:39 |
I chose the alternative to the "other" option, which is:
I'm not American, so I don't really have a choice to watch the debates on TV, which means that even though I'm going to ignore the whole event it slightly bothers me that I can't make my indifference appear a revolutionarily statement against the whole election thing which is nothing more than commercial pseudo-political nonsense bearing no relevance to anything remotely important because no matter whom they vote the president the real power lies with the government and the secret government above the government, and there's a government above every government except the highest government, which is so secret a government that its members don't even know that they're members of a government, in fact I could be one of them and probably am.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 15:47 |
Vompatti wrote:
I chose the alternative to the "other" option, which is:
I'm not American, so I don't really have a choice to watch the debates on TV, which means that even though I'm going to ignore the whole event it slightly bothers me that I can't make my indifference appear a revolutionarily statement against the whole election thing which is nothing more than commercial pseudo-political nonsense bearing no relevance to anything remotely important because no matter whom they vote the president the real power lies with the government and the secret government above the government, and there's a government above every government except the highest government, which is so secret a government that its members don't even know that they're members of a government, in fact I could be one of them and probably am.
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Does that last thing you mention have something to do with memetics?
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 15:48 |
I'll definitely watch what I can of them.
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Vompatti
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 15:53 |
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 15:57 |
Meme theory is quite interesting, a meme is basically the philosophical equivalnet of a gene: An idea that passes itself on to people as it's communicated, combining with other ideas and mutating as it reaches across places and times.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Vompatti
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 16:00 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Meme theory is quite interesting, a meme is basically the philosophical equivalnet of a gene: An idea that passes itself on to people as it's communicated, combining with other ideas and mutating as it reaches across places and times.
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So engaging in a conversation is just like making babies?
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 16:01 |
... sort of, on the metaphorical level at least. Okay, I'm not sure if I've been much of a help here. I'm fairly exhausted right now, so stay tuned because tomorrow I'll probably make a new post explaining this whole memetics thing in more detail.
Edited by Toaster Mantis - September 10 2008 at 16:05
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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jimmy_row
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 16:23 |
"What!!!? There's a presidential election going on in the US?"
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BroSpence
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 02:29 |
Probably catch a few minutes of them knowing they'll only piss me off, and knowing that I won't be voting for either clown.
The Kerry/Bush/Edwards/Cheney debates were ridiculous. Not just because of the constant terrible arguments and fallacies, but listening to the comments of people afterwards. One woman's reason for voting Bush was that she wouldn't be able to make more money (100K or so) over time (she was a waitress) if Kerry was elected.
Its people/comments like that that make me really want to leave this country sometimes. NOT the people in office. Which is pretty bad.
There should really be an adult voter responsibilty class/act here. Everyone must take it. The government would pay for it (by redirecting our money that goes to those ridiculous conventions). Basically it would be a class on critical thinking. Then people could better choose who to not vote for.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 10:43 |
rileydog22 wrote:
I plan on totally ignoring the elections because every candidate sucks this year.
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I definitely agree with the bolded part. I don't know if I'll watch the debate, but I'll probably read up on it afterwards. Then to decide which of the worthless people to vote for.
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Padraic
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 10:45 |
Sigh - ostensibly one should watch the debates to "get informed", but the information content in these modern debates is virtually nil. Just parroting of talking points and a carefully constructed performance for either side.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: September 14 2008 at 23:01 |
Avoid them they're not debates. No semi-meaningful questions are asked, you must respond on a time limit, and you can only speak when given permission. It's a like a high school presentation, completely pointless.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: September 15 2008 at 00:06 |
I'll probably watch if I can but leave the opinions up to me, not the experts.
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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BroSpence
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Posted: September 15 2008 at 23:12 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Avoid them they're not debates. No semi-meaningful questions are asked, you must respond on a time limit, and you can only speak when given permission. It's a like a high school presentation, completely pointless. |
Well considering this election is for high school SGA, it seems quite appropriate. Its not like any of these candidates could handle a well thought, meaningful question. Oh wait. What I mean is...
Its not like any of these candidates would answer a well thought, meaningful question.
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