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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:16 |
^ the problem is that once smoking inside buildings is allowed with certain restrictions, whether you are affected by smokers or not depends on where you sit in the room, whether someone opens a window or not etc. etc.. The *only* way to ensure smoke free buildings is to ban smoking within them ... clear rules which can be enforced effectively.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:22 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ the problem is that once smoking inside buildings is allowed with certain restrictions, whether you are affected by smokers or not depends on where you sit in the room, whether someone opens a window or not etc. etc.. The *only* way to ensure smoke free buildings is to ban smoking within them ... clear rules which can be enforced effectively.
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True, to have a smoke free building, then yes, no smoking.
However, the idea of ventilated smoking rooms, shouldn't be negated. I think its gone from one extreme to the other. If the hazard to others is removed, then what is the issue? Smell of smoke on the clothes of the smoker?
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:26 |
I know here in Jersey theres been...pretty much a virtual ban of all smoking inside.
I like it, just since I don't smoke.
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chamberry
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:36 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ the problem is that once smoking inside buildings is allowed with certain restrictions, whether you are affected by smokers or not depends on where you sit in the room, whether someone opens a window or not etc. etc.. The *only* way to ensure smoke free buildings is to ban smoking within them ... clear rules which can be enforced effectively.
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There's a recent law here in Puerto Rico banning smoking in confined places. Some people are put off by it, but I think its safer and healthier that way.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:38 |
I'm a smoker (20 cigarrettes a day or more) but thers's nothing so disgusting as a room full of smoke,
Here the Casinos for example allow smoking anywhere and the rare ocasions I go I rather play in the non smokers area (It's very small).
The law clearly says the public places may allow smoking only if they have areas without solid roof, generally only is alowed in outside areas, but this is dead letter, everybody smokes where they want.
I try not to bother anybody and if I have the doubt I rather stand up and go to the exterior to smoke.
Iván
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Proletariat
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:44 |
there is a ban on smoking in All public and commercial confined spaces where I live. The real issue is that Marijuanna, Cocane, and Heroin are illegal. Tobbaco is just as bad, ither all of them are legal or all of them arn't. It dosen't make sense to pick and choose based on the economic value of a particular crop.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:48 |
As I have shown in the other thread, I'm not the biggest fan of tobacco. I fully support indoor bans on smoking. I don't want to be affected with smoke in a restaurant or a waiting room, not just because of second hand smoke but just the fact that it's extremely unpleasant. It's not like the outdoors is too far way. It's just a small step and smokers don't have to go too far out of the way for the greater good of all non-smokers.
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darkmatter
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 00:06 |
JJLehto wrote:
I know here in Jersey theres been...pretty much a virtual ban of all smoking inside.
I like it, just since I don't smoke. |
I agree, that has made me really happy. Sometimes, I go to a diner near my house with some friends, and people used to smoke on the left side all the time, and it smelled awful. But now it's totally clean, and I can't smell a bit of tobacco smoke.
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 00:52 |
darkmatter wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
I know here in Jersey theres been...pretty much a virtual ban of all smoking inside.
I like it, just since I don't smoke. |
I agree, that has made me really happy. Sometimes, I go to a diner near my house with some friends, and people used to smoke on the left side all the time, and it smelled awful. But now it's totally clean, and I can't smell a bit of tobacco smoke.
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Absolutely, it feels so weird going to diners out of state and hearing "smoking or non?"
It is nice, if you're near a smoking section you can still smell it.
I'm big on, "live and let live" but I do think smoking is really intruding on people who don't when it's in public like that.
Edited by JJLehto - April 06 2007 at 00:53
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