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IVNORD 
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 17:34 |
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split between Winter Light and The Silence with Persona and Autumn Sonata trailing slightly behind...
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andu
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 17:39 |
Thanks for the poll! I've seen only four films from this amazing artist - Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, Persona and Cries and Whispers. They were all masterpieces, and Persona may count in the top masterpieces ever, but my favourite for it's more allegorical story and masterful touch of contrasts will remain "The Seventh Seal". 
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 18:46 |
The Seventh Seal is a good film overall but it’s his early period and it shows (same goes for Wild Strawberries, although considering it was made in the 50's, it's definetly a masterpiece). You can see some weak moments there (startin with the knight sleeping on beach pebbles) and its symbolism is a bit pretentious. But if you like the Seal, you must see The Virgin Spring. Again medieval Sweden settings, but it's a much stronger film than the Seal. I haven’t included a lot of his early films. Some of them have good scenes and devices though, and you can see how his skills and talent gradually develop.
Cries and Whispers is brilliant. Especially transitions from reality to surreality and the imaginary. Fellini uses it in his Intervista, not on the same scale though
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 08:31 |
I've not seen too many, but I certainly remember enjoying 'Through A Glass Darkly'... so it gets my vote...  ...and a clappy.
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 08:59 |
One of my favourite actresses!
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IVNORD
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 09:21 |
 fandango wrote:
I've not seen too many, but I certainly remember enjoying 'Through A Glass Darkly'... so it gets my vote......and a clappy. |
Excellent film indeed
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IVNORD
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 09:21 |
Snow Dog wrote:
One of my favourite actresses! |
Confused with Ingrid?
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 09:31 |
IVNORD wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
One of my favourite actresses! |
Confused with Ingrid? |
Oh yes...... 
..no I was joking. 
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 10:24 |
I remember hating thoroughly Fanny And Alexander (it was my first exposition to his films) , bored out of my skull and actually falling almost asleep in the second run movie house some 25 years ago and I never really returned to Bergman.
Hopefully not all his movies are this boring...
If not, then maybe I'll try sumthing else.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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IVNORD
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 11:08 |
Sean Trane wrote:
I remember hating thoroughly Fanny And Alexander (it was my first exposition to his films) , bored out of my skull and actually falling almost asleep in the second run movie house some 25 years ago and I never really returned to Bergman.
Hopefully not all his movies are this boring...
If not, then maybe I'll try sumthing else. |
Actually, Fanny and Alexander, as lavish and pompous as it is, is his most action-filled “thriller” and his weakest film (probably that’s why it got an Oscar). But chances are you were bored 25 years ago and may not be bored today. Try something else though
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 12:55 |
Persona 
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 13:05 |
The Eternal Triangle (not listed there).
She plays the role of the hypotenuse.
Edited by inpraiseoffolly - March 06 2007 at 13:05
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IVNORD
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 13:16 |
inpraiseoffolly wrote:
The Eternal Triangle (not listed there).
She plays the role of the hypotenuse. |
not Bergman
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Posted: March 06 2007 at 13:20 |
^^^
Listen to the Tom Lehrer song Lobachevsky... all will become clear.
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:17 |
IVNORD wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I remember hating thoroughly Fanny And Alexander (it was my first exposition to his films) , bored out of my skull and actually falling almost asleep in the second run movie house some 25 years ago and I never really returned to Bergman.
Hopefully not all his movies are this boring...
If not, then maybe I'll try sumthing else. |
Actually, Fanny and Alexander, as lavish and pompous as it is, is his most action-filled “thriller” and his weakest film (probably that’s why it got an Oscar). But chances are you were bored 25 years ago and may not be bored today. Try something else though |
The Oscar was precisely why I had chosen that one.
Which one would you suggest? Preferrably as far removed from F&A...
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:26 |
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^WTF! Boring? Thriller? Fanny and Alexander is his late masterpiece. Try again both of you. The five hour series version is really the one to watch, though.
So far my favorite is Wild Strawberries.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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IVNORD
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:12 |
Sean Trane wrote:
IVNORD wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I remember hating thoroughly Fanny And Alexander (it was my first exposition to his films) , bored out of my skull and actually falling almost asleep in the second run movie house some 25 years ago and I never really returned to Bergman.
Hopefully not all his movies are this boring...
If not, then maybe I'll try sumthing else. |
Actually, Fanny and Alexander, as lavish and pompous as it is, is his most action-filled “thriller” and his weakest film (probably that’s why it got an Oscar). But chances are you were bored 25 years ago and may not be bored today. Try something else though |
The Oscar was precisely why I had chosen that one.
Which one would you suggest? Preferrably as far removed from F&A... |
Try Scenes from a Marriage. If you like Fassbinder, From the Life of the Marionettes is in that vein (though definitely Bergman). They both are of contemporary drama genre.
As per the Oscar… some 20 years ago I spent a whole week watching Oscar films on TV and I couldn’t stop throwing up. Ever since I am very suspicious of anything Oscar.
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IVNORD
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:30 |
Rocktopus wrote:
^WTF! Boring? Thriller? Fanny and Alexander is his late masterpiece. Try again both of you. The five hour series version is really the one to watch, though.
So far my favorite is Wild Strawberries.
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Not “thriller” in the sense of a thriller. But you can’t deny that unlike other Bergman films this one is filled with action. Especially good is the kidnapping of the children in a chest! And some other scenes from the bishop part are somewhat non-believable. I think, as it was supposed to be Bergman’s swan song, he kinda succumbed to the lure of going with a bang and overdid it. Lavish, pompous and very Hollywoodish. I don’t think I could sit through the 5-hour thing
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 13:30 |
I've only The Seventh Seal in my collection...  A fantastic piece of simbolism yet at times too intellectual and pretentious for me... But a work of an artist nevertheless.. like a good album, I'll have to watch it a few more times to actually make a good judgment.
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 16:15 |
Seen 3 and love them all
1-The Seventh Seal
2-Fanny and Alexander
3-Hour of the Wolf
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