Ingmar Bergman
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Topic: Ingmar Bergman
Posted By: IVNORD
Subject: Ingmar Bergman
Date Posted: March 04 2007 at 17:34
| split between Winter Light and The Silence with Persona and Autumn Sonata trailing slightly behind... |
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: March 04 2007 at 17:39
Thanks for the poll! I've seen only four films from this amazing artist - Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, Persona and Cries and Whispers. They were all masterpieces, and Persona may count in the top masterpieces ever, but my favourite for it's more allegorical story and masterful touch of contrasts will remain "The Seventh Seal". 
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: March 04 2007 at 18:46
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The Seventh Seal is a good film overall but it’s his early period and it shows (same goes for Wild Strawberries, although considering it was made in the 50's, it's definetly a masterpiece). You can see some weak moments there (startin with the knight sleeping on beach pebbles) and its symbolism is a bit pretentious. But if you like the Seal, you must see The Virgin Spring. Again medieval Sweden settings, but it's a much stronger film than the Seal. I haven’t included a lot of his early films. Some of them have good scenes and devices though, and you can see how his skills and talent gradually develop. Cries and Whispers is brilliant. Especially transitions from reality to surreality and the imaginary. Fellini uses it in his Intervista, not on the same scale though |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 08:31
I've not seen too many, but I certainly remember enjoying 'Through A Glass Darkly'... so it gets my vote... ...and a clappy.------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 08:59
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One of my favourite actresses! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 09:21
Excellent film indeed
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fandango wrote:Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 09:21
Confused with Ingrid?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 09:31
Oh yes......
 ..no I was joking.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 10:24
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I remember hating thoroughly Fanny And Alexander (it was my first exposition to his films) , bored out of my skull and actually falling almost asleep in the second run movie house some 25 years ago and I never really returned to Bergman.
Hopefully not all his movies are this boring...
If not, then maybe I'll try sumthing else. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 11:08
Actually, Fanny and Alexander, as lavish and pompous as it is, is his most action-filled “thriller” and his weakest film (probably that’s why it got an Oscar). But chances are you were bored 25 years ago and may not be bored today. Try something else though |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 12:55
Persona 
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 13:05
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The Eternal Triangle (not listed there). She plays the role of the hypotenuse.
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 13:16
not Bergman
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 13:20
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^^^
Listen to the Tom Lehrer song Lobachevsky... all will become clear.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:17
The Oscar was precisely why I had chosen that one.
Which one would you suggest? Preferrably as far removed from F&A... ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:26
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^WTF! Boring? Thriller? Fanny and Alexander is his late masterpiece. Try again both of you. The five hour series version is really the one to watch, though. So far my favorite is Wild Strawberries. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:12
Try Scenes from a Marriage. If you like Fassbinder, From the Life of the Marionettes is in that vein (though definitely Bergman). They both are of contemporary drama genre. As per the Oscar… some 20 years ago I spent a whole week watching Oscar films on TV and I couldn’t stop throwing up. Ever since I am very suspicious of anything Oscar. |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:30
Not “thriller” in the sense of a thriller. But you can’t deny that unlike other Bergman films this one is filled with action. Especially good is the kidnapping of the children in a chest! And some other scenes from the bishop part are somewhat non-believable. I think, as it was supposed to be Bergman’s swan song, he kinda succumbed to the lure of going with a bang and overdid it. Lavish, pompous and very Hollywoodish. I don’t think I could sit through the 5-hour thing |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 13:30
I've only The Seventh Seal in my collection... A fantastic piece of simbolism yet at times too intellectual and pretentious for me... But a work of an artist nevertheless.. like a good album, I'll have to watch it a few more times to actually make a good judgment. ------------- 
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Posted By: Niki ( IO )
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 16:15
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Seen 3 and love them all
1-The Seventh Seal
2-Fanny and Alexander
3-Hour of the Wolf ------------- IO |