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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The dance was originally named "Cha-cha-cha" because of the rhythmic pattern in it (which you can clearly hear just before VdGG start tearing it apart). Some lazybones shortened the name to "Cha-cha" then, but that name is much less satisfying, because it just doesn't fit the rhythmic pattern.
 
Ballroom dancers are lazybones? The name is much more satisfying as Cha cha because its less stupid sounding.
And the Brits are always right.
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It goes really good with the song Smile !!
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

 
Ballroom dancers are lazybones? The name is much more satisfying as Cha cha because its less stupid sounding.
And the Brits are always right.
 
If the Brits are always right, it's cha-cha-cha; a very relevent Brit told me so - Hugh Banton, whose idea it was to do the whole bit in the first place! (Hugh refers to it as cha-cha-cha)
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Originally posted by bucka001 bucka001 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

 
Ballroom dancers are lazybones? The name is much more satisfying as Cha cha because its less stupid sounding.
And the Brits are always right.
 
If the Brits are always right, it's cha-cha-cha; a very relevent Brit told me so - Hugh Banton, whose idea it was to do the whole bit in the first place! (Hugh refers to it as cha-cha-cha)
he must be screwed up then.
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I love it. They utilized it well.
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I don't feel that strongly about it either way.Saying that;it does have a film noir/early 20th century, dark animated film feel to it.There is an animated film of a graveyard scene with dancing skeletons circa 1920's that comes to mind. It's similar (not in sound) as the dub/reggae that they used in Meurglys III IMHO. A nice and unexpected twist.



Edited by Man Erg - April 23 2006 at 06:58

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by bucka001 bucka001 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

 
Ballroom dancers are lazybones? The name is much more satisfying as Cha cha because its less stupid sounding.
And the Brits are always right.
 
If the Brits are always right, it's cha-cha-cha; a very relevent Brit told me so - Hugh Banton, whose idea it was to do the whole bit in the first place! (Hugh refers to it as cha-cha-cha)
he must be screwed up then.
 
Errrr... yes, that must be it.
 
 
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I love it; it kind of has a spooky feel to it, like a cha-cha-cha for ghosts, IMO. That song has such strange versatility; it has circusy music, piratey music, funky music, spacey music, royal-sounding music and of course spooky cha-cha-cha all in one, IMO.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Read the update of my post. Wink
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I don't know about that. All my life its been known as Chacha. Anyway. Sleepwalkers is a great song.Tongue
 
I just noticed......you've gone back to plain "Joren" again!
Yeah my new name was a bit too long and formal after all... Wink
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I love that section of Sleepwalkers, it's quirky, funny, ironic and brilliantly executed.

Sleepwalkers is among my favourite VDGG songs, and saves 'Godbluff' from being an otherwise very average album by VDGG standards IMO.
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    cool part, thats all
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As a Latin American i must say ¡¡ It's cha-cha-cha, all my life i heard it as chachacha, not as chacha.
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Give it a rest!
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2006 at 13:02

I don't think it's out of place, but I understand those who think it is.

It certainly is there for a reason, and that reason must be irony. But I don't think the song would be any worse without this section. 



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I think it's genius, much like the rest of the album.
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Originally posted by Rorro Rorro wrote:

As a Latin American i must say ¡¡ It's cha-cha-cha, all my life i heard it as chachacha, not as chacha.
 
Technically speaking -- and i speaks as a professor of latin american dancing -- it should be cha-cha-cha-cha...
 
and yes its brilliant in SleepwalkersTongue
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

If it wasn't for the cha cha cha part I wouldn't even like the album and probably lost interest. That was the part that got my atention and keep listening to the album.
You mean to tell me that if it was not for those Cha Cha Cha (played twice and max 5 second in total), you would not like the albumConfused>>> Man YOU ARE STRANGEWink
 
I still confirm my dislike of cha cha cha in that particular track (I do not care for the dance either, BTWWink), but it is partly because VDGG is not a band known for its humour (I think the cha cha cha bit in a Caravan or in a Genesis track would've been greatBig smile) , but in this case it provides what I feel is unecessary break into the track, too light-hearted for the subject discussed.
 
BTW : I checked up on that review of mine, and apparently only the first version of the review I made from that album is apparent . I had edited twice once in late 04 and another time in september 05, when I rewrote almost all of my VDGG reviews. Not only have the recent changes made disappear this rewritten review, but it has wiped out my review of Still LifeOuch and the one from World Record is also not the latest versionAngry


Well, the first time I heard the album (and VDGG from the first time too) I thought that it was the boring-est thing ever but when the Cha-cha part I altleast liked one song by the end of the first listen. Then the only song I would play from the album was Sleepwalkers because I liked it so much specialy the Cha-cha part. And from that song I slowly liked the others.Big smile

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I love it! Heart 
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It gives a perfect climax to the song. Clap
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nothing I care for much, but I don’t bother either
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