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emdiar
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 14:12 |
As long as Yngwei Malmsteen doesn't get a mention!!!......sh*t.
What next? Uli Jon bleedin' Roth's Electric bloody Sun?!?!
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:02 |
I voted Yes any more opinions?
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AngelRat
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 16:46 |
He should be on wankarchives.com.
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Yanns
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 18:59 |
No doubt his work is great. One of the great guitarists. Fit for ProgArchives? I doubt it.
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Arsillus
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 22:37 |
No. Even though I like Vai, his music isn't prog, or prog in the sense of the purpose of this website.
And for all those who say he's devoid of passion and he's a machine- you're just jealous because he's better than your favourite guitarist!
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 22:40 |
rachmahlerov wrote:
i think he should. his music is progressive enough for me. |
You have the same avatar as 'Blacksword'
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Valarius
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 03:54 |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 04:21 |
Yes
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terramystic
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 05:28 |
Carl floyd fan wrote:
no, his music, while technically amazing is devoid of any passion and ends up being boring. he doesn't really do anything (new) with the talent he has either. And no, he isn't prog. |
Such a remark only shows ignorance. Yes, he is boring sometimes (for
other reasons - noodling, inconsistent songwriting...) but he's the
most passionate and soulful
guitar virtuoso I know. I think he is more progressive than Satriani or
any other shredder - there's no need to fear that they can be added
too. His style is unique and eclectic (though influenced by Zappa) and noone can play guitar like him. He has also a lot more knowledge in music than other solo virtuosos.
Conserning the inclusion in the archives... He plays a lot of non-prog
stuff - blues rock, fusion, ethno rock... A lot of music also doesn't
fit any style, for example: What is "OOOO"? avant metal or fusion or
what?? But some compositions are prog - just listen to:
"Fire Garden Suite", "Salamanders in the Sun", "There's Something Dead
In Here" (not a pleasant listening but it's typical avant prog!), "Love
Secrets", "The Silent Within", "The Road To Mt. Calvary".
He has some real prog moments for sure and overall he sounds a lot like art rock. He may be worth consideration.
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Olympus
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 02:20 |
Mabye.......................................
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:16 |
oliverstoned wrote:
rachmahlerov wrote:
i think he should. his music is progressive enough for me. |
If he's prog enough, all is prog enough
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What is that supposed to mean? So you're saying that he's not progressive at all, and that he's on the same level as any other artist? Did you even listen to the Fire Garden Suite?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:25 |
oliverstoned wrote:
But there's no doubt that Zappa is prog!
And virtuosity is not the only criteria
Zappa is one of the very best guitar player and a great composer!
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I think you would be surprised if you knew how much of the stuff on Guitar, Drowning Witch, Tinseltown, You Are What You Is ... was played by Vai.
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Logos
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:28 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I think you would be surprised if you knew how much of the stuff on Guitar, Drowning Witch, Tinseltown, You Are What You Is ... was played by Vai. |
Yeah but little good did Vai do to Zappa's music.. it was all downhill in the 80's, and it was in the 80's when Vai was with Zappa.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:57 |
Logos wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I think you would be surprised if you knew how much of the stuff on Guitar, Drowning Witch, Tinseltown, You Are What You Is ... was played by Vai. |
Yeah but little good did Vai do to Zappa's music.. it was all downhill in the 80's, and it was in the 80's when Vai was with Zappa. |
Vai had no influence on Zappa's music - he just played what he was told to.
Here, listen to this:
http://www.progarchives.com/mp3/Vai,%20Steve%20-%20Fire%20ga rden%20-%2009%20-%20Fire%20Garden%20Suite.mp3
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 12:20 |
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