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Poll Question: Who was (is) The best voice for Marillion ... Fish or Steve Hogarth ?
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Originally posted by Under Under wrote:

^ Cannot be. Judge the difference between Old Marillion and New Marillion. Even if he did not actively contribute to writing he surely contributed to the songs just by being in the same room.

The sense of irritation is sometimes a good fundament for inspiration.

 

Sure, but you can say the same about Hogarth. And he actively writes music and plays at least one instrument as far as I remember.
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Fish - more emotions, more acting in his voice, better showman, far better lyricist.

And frankly, do Marillion need Steve playing instruments, when they have geniuses in persons of Steve and Mark? Look at Yes and how funny Jon seems when trying to play all the instruments.
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Originally posted by RaphaelT RaphaelT wrote:

 

Fish - more emotions

I don't think so.

more acting in his voice

Poorer vocal melodies, though.

, better showman,

I'm gonna have to trust you on this one.

far better lyricist.

I'm not sure he's better, let alone far better.

And frankly, do Marillion need Steve playing instruments, when they have geniuses in persons of Steve and Mark? Look at Yes and how funny Jon seems when trying to play all the instruments.

Maybe you're right, but I'm sure that it aids his songwriting skills, and the results are usually damn good. 
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The Fish era had so much substance, The band was much rawer in their approach which to me, made them special....

 

BUT the Hogarth era, each band member became better musicians with each release... And Hogarth is a very talented musician in his own right, lyrically nowhere near Fish, but I like Hogarth's near angelic vocals better...

 

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Fish is only a great copyst of PETER GABRIEL !!!!

STEVE HOGARTH is unique, don't copy anybody... the guy is ORIGINAL !!! And his voice is very much EMOTIONAL ! The voice of Fish is the same in mellow parts or in harder parts of songs...

And the MARILLION of Fish days was only another neo prog band, in the middle of IQ, PALLAS, PENDRAGON, JADIS, etc...

But now, MARILLION is a great prog/aternative/pop band, and who sounds like them ???

 
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Fish (so what if his voice sounds a bit like Gabriel's. I just like his singing style - different from Gabriel's)
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Just listen to "So here I am once more, in the playground of the...."

Thatīs it, FISH is one of the best singers of all time.
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Fish era is amazing, but hogarth have a better technique of voice and better shades in the live performance than Fish and the question is about voice and not about marillionīs era.
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Fish. I have Script, CAS, Brave, and AoS. The first two are much stronger than the Hogarth albums.
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Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Not to degrade Fish in any way, but is it true that he's never actually written a song (and can't write music at all) and is only respeonsible for the lyrics? 


He wrote the vocal melodies.

I like both of them very much, but my vote goes to Fish.
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I think Hogarth is better no doubt about it. People have said that he lacks the stage presence, but Hogarth is the introvert whereas Fish was the extrovert. It's just not Hogarth's way. His voice is just so powerful and emotional and really hits you when you're there at the concert. Don't get me wrong I'm not fishist, just I think Hogarth has the power. Somone commented that it is as though Hogarth is the singer and not one of the band, if anything this was true in the Fish-era and I don't believe this at all, if anything Hogarth takes a more back seat role, allowing Mark Kelly to do the talking.
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