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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2025 at 08:50
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

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^^ not a Toscanini fan... he conducted practically everything at the pace of a race horse.
But with a precision, drive and clarity unmatched by any conductor then or since....

I really can't agree with that at all... there have literally been forty, fifty, sixty premier league conductors who have subsequently interpreted the music with far more satisfying results than AT, who was very much a man of his time.  
Nothing could be further from the truth; we will have to agree to disagree on this matter.

we will... all I can say is that if you went into pretty well any classical music forum and expressed that view, you'd be met with polite disbelief and a feeling that you actually knew very little about CM interpretation.
I'm sorry, but I find your tone gravitating towards being insulting towards me. Let's just say we disagree and leave it at that, please.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Floydoid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2025 at 13:42
Pictures by a mile - one of the albums that would always be on my desert island list.
Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?
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People that is good with facts say that this is the concert where most of the material for Ricochet was taken from:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2025 at 15:04
Pictures. What I have heard from Tangerine Dream just hasn't clicked with me... too much atmosphere without enough melody. I prefer something more melodic like Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene and Equinoxe albums.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2025 at 18:37
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

People that is good with facts say that this is the concert where most of the material for Ricochet was taken from:



That's the show, but less than twenty minutes from the concert proper were used for "Part Two": Edgar Froese's piano improvisation at the very beginning and a new bridge connect the two live segments (which were remixed for the album, so they don't sound as heard in concert, anyway).

"Part One" is essentially a montage based on parts they liked when they reviewed their many hours of improv from the tour (UK, Fall of '75). The Mellotron parts, Edgar's guitar, Chris's drumming, etc., were all (re)recorded in Virgin's studio, The Manor, where they recorded Phaedra and Rubycon.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2025 at 02:51
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Pictures. What I have heard from Tangerine Dream just hasn't clicked with me... too much atmosphere without enough melody. I prefer something more melodic like Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene and Equinoxe albums.

Tangram? That is chock full of beautiful melodies. That and the slightly underrated Underwater Sunlight also spring to mind.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2025 at 00:29
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Pictures. What I have heard from Tangerine Dream just hasn't clicked with me... too much atmosphere without enough melody. I prefer something more melodic like Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene and Equinoxe albums.


Tangram? That is chock full of beautiful melodies. That and the slightly underrated Underwater Sunlight also spring to mind.


I checked out some albums on Spotify. And did buy one (don't remember if it's Ricochet or Phaedra. I don't remember if I checked out Tangran, but I will do so now, thanks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2025 at 01:54
Pictures quite easily; you can tell the atmosphere generated by those Geordies adds to the performance.   I also remember what Danny Baker wrote about 'The Old Castle' in particular.  ELP were very much a live band and this argument holds even up to the Works tour.  Fantastic album. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2025 at 03:07
The only Tangerine Dream album I can willingly listen to for more than 10 seconds, without being bored to tears, is Force Majure (1979). While ELP's Pictures at an Exhibition is the "lesser poop" of the two, I'm gonna vote None, just because it is an option. :D

In terms of choosing a favorite live album containing all new material, for me it's easy peasy. That'll be Piktors Verwandlungen by Anyone's Daughter.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2025 at 10:54
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


In terms of choosing a favorite live album containing all new material, for me it's easy peasy. That'll be Piktors Verwandlungen by Anyone's Daughter.

Some passages of the music are beautiful, but I really wish the words had been sung rather than narrated?
Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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