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Runaway 
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 Topic: Gentle giant-With or without Philip?
Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:34 |
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Well, philips's era was more consistent, but they made my fav without him...
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Mategra
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 03:22 |
My favourite GG albums are:
In a Glass House
The Power and the Glory
Free Hand
Interview
all without Phil
The best Phil-era album is Three Friends, imho.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 04:52 |
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Definitely with. Their sound had a much greater variety with him.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 05:01 |
With, with, with!
Friede said it all, and what can I do but agree?
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magog
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 06:37 |
 Runaway wrote:
Well, philips's era was more consistent, but they made my fav without him... |
The same for me...I've never thought of this problem...good idea
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 13:02 |
That's hard to say. I think both "eras" of the band are equally good, although the music and focus is different. The early stuff is obviously more progressive and interesting, but the later stuff is more refined and somewhat more listenable.
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 13:28 |
Runaway wrote:
Well, philips's era was more consistent, but they made my fav without him... |
good question and considering my four favorite albums are split between
with and without him. I guess I can say, I enjoy Gentle Giant whether
it is with or without him ha ha hah. However if I HAD to choose, it
would be with him.
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Bj-1
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 20:14 |
Without Phil, though Octopus is my favorite. They had more variety with Phil, yes, but the post-Octopus albums are slightly better generally, IMO.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 21:13 |
I liked the sax and trumpet...when Phil left those did as well.
So i will say with Phil for dirversity sake, tho the albums they made without him are better.
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 22:24 |
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Definitely with Phil ... for me ... but then again, I'm one of those who thinks Power And The Glory is the least enjoyable of their first six albums ...
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Ray Lomas
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 03:43 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Definitely with. Their sound had a much greater variety with him. |
Yes, I absolutely agree. All those horns and saxophones are great, I also like his voice. 
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 08:58 |
Oooh... looks like I'll be the voice of controversy.
When Phil left the band got tighter and more focused, AND stopped filling their albums with obscure literary allusions. They didn't lose out musically as Ray could play trumpet too and Kerry handled the softer vocals nicely (albeit never live  ). IAGH to Interview showed GG at their creative peak.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:20 |
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You disappoint me, Trousie; I would have bet you vote for GG with Phil.
And I certainly don't agree they were at their creative peak without
him. Tighter and more focused, yes; but that's rather something to
deplore. I like them freaky and wild. Though I like GG after Phil left
too, but my preference is the early period.
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Badabec
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Posted: November 19 2005 at 10:08 |
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It's not that Phil wouldn't be a good musician (no doubt about it). But most of the
band-members didn't want to have him in Gentle Giant anymore I think.
So it was better for Gentle Giant when he left.
Edited by Badabec
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 16:14 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Oooh... looks like I'll be the voice of controversy.
When Phil left the band got tighter and more focused, AND stopped filling their albums with obscure literary allusions. They didn't lose out musically as Ray could play trumpet too and Kerry handled the softer vocals nicely (albeit never live ). IAGH to Interview showed GG at their creative peak.
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yep.
IAGH, The Power and the Glory, Interview are all better than the Phil era albums.
nothing they did is 'bad' though 70-77
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