Pinocchio (1940) vs Fantasia (1940)

FANTASIA is the more important of the two, although it is not exactly a film for the kiddies, as the music is the story, not anything else, but the cartoons are excellent.

Pinocchio is a fantasy story taken from the original ... and what Walt Disney did, to many other stories as well, was change them to a fairy tale, that was supposed to get the kids to behave ... when the originals were more about the social and philosophical times when they were first created, and their meanings were much more intelligent and pointed than the soda pop mentality that Mr. Disney used.

BY THE WAY ... the recent film about Pinocchio with Robert Benigni is fantastic and very with it and worth seeing. It was made in 2020. It is much more "faithful" to the original than the cardboard version used by Walt Disney, which DID HAVE some neat cartoon stuff, and helped the life of cartoons develop, but then FANTASIA did not come around and be appreciated until way later by the audiences, more like 10 plus years later, though both films date 1940. And that tells you how much folks did not exactly like the detailed interpretation of the music by the cartoons. Something that a lot of classical music studies did not like either, since it "interfered" with the real stories of the music! The idea of the music being associated with cartoons might make serious music listeners think that it was not a good idea!

(Side note)  (My dad, reviewed it and had it cut up by the Portuguese Censors, but he was a classic music fan and then some -- hundreds of poems to so much music) ... but when I asked what he though ... "it was very nice" ... and went back to his work. Which was his nice way of saying ... not a big deal or worth discussing!)

There is, also, another Italian film "ALLEGRO NON TROPPO" that is a lot of fun to watch and it is along the lines of Fantasia, although it kinda ends with a rather strange thing on Ravel's Bolero, but still fun to watch as the music and the cartoon interweave so well in its "march"! It has some outstanding things, and the Dvorak one will have you in tears laughing! And a couple of the pieces, the old man one, and then the kitty cat one ... are just ... far out there ... way better and more interesting than what Walt Disney ever did.

Pinocchio (2020 Italy)

Hi,

I was thinking that both were valuable and important, since almost all cartoons were not that "fast" and still used the stop/pic/stop/pic process which Warner Bros went on to just obliterate. But many of the cartoonists came from Disney, and those two films showed a freedom of expression and design ability that was very neat and enjoyable. I would agree it is the best of WD's animation projects, and likely the standard level for many years to come.

The weird/funny thing is that WD let go of "music" and WB became known for it, even though we don't discuss it. Try listening to Carl Stalling without the visual ... but you can do the cartoon without the music, since you can imagine the sound effects, though not the music! But the music, makes a lot of modern music sound bad, and makes Faust sound like a kid goofing around and laughing at it when he/she is 2!