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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

  

Portishead      Portishead      Eng      1997    

Tuatara           Breaking the Ethers    USA    


These are two of the many albums I was implying when I was talking about albums not considered prog “enough” for PA. Although, when I then checked, I see that Tuatara is in PA (and I just never knew it).

I would probably call Tuatara a multi-National group, rather than a US group, though. It was formed by Barrett Martin and Justin Harwood, the latter of whom gave the project its name, and who is a Kiwi. From the initial idea from Barrett and Justin, they were joined initially by Peter Buck and Skerik, but with the idea that they would always be a floating and changing collective of musicians with influences from around the globe. After Justin left, Barrett took the reins solo and has been the only constant member that I’m aware of, but there has pretty much always been musicians from at least one country other than the US.

I love Breaking the Ethers so much, so I would have to put them into my top ten for 1997.
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Many great ones in 97. Hard to identify which is tops.

1. Phi Yaan Zek - Worlds Beyond Cause
2. 5uus - Crisis in Clay
3. Koenji Hyakkei - ni(Viva Koenji)
4. Spastic Ink - Ink Complete
5. Happy Family - Toscco
6. Fredrik Thordendal - Sol Niger Within
7. Idiot Flesh - Fancy
8. Bondage Fruit - Récit
9. Par Lindh Project - Mondus Incopertus
10. Bozzio Levens Stevens - Black Light Syndrome

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It has gradually widened over the years to the point where its just 'interesting rock music' that avoids the mainstream. Don't sweat it!

Someone just like to go more in depth with things than that, and maybe Prog means more to them.

as you can see I have a long history with this site

I got very annoyed when the likes of Queen and 10CC started appearing (albeit under Prog related). Nowadays its not worth increasing my blood pressure over. There is a whole lot of stuff that would fail if we were taking a seventies definition. I would not stray much beyond the likes of ELP, Genesis , Marillion, Floyd and Tull if was down to me. A key thing though is 'rock'. It should be 'rock music' at least and many bands and artists fail that immediately. I mean what the eff is Kate Bush doing here? She is not prog and never was as much as I adore her. And we can go on and on and on with this argument but I won't. As Christi suggests, Radiohead is one the lesser controversial choices for prog. I remember magazine articles comparing them to Yes and Genesis. Hilarious maybe but not totally off the mark.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

... A key thing though is 'rock'. It should be 'rock music' at least and many bands and artists fail that immediately. I mean what the eff is Kate Bush doing here? She is not prog and never was as much as I adore her. And we can go on and on and on with this argument but I won't. As Christi suggests, Radiohead is one the lesser controversial choices for prog... 

My main point was considering much more than just OK Computer.

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Oh good yet another discussion about 'what is prog' . 

And precisely speaking, it's not about what Prog is, but about what it should be considered/defined as to be - it's a decision.
(for this very important distinction, maybe see my article - even I dont think, you have any need for that, richardh)
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127835&SID=6216975ab2282e7cc89bc6f99bze40384490741
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In the Wake of Poseidon...and not...at the black bottom of the sea...
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And now, I think, I'll better move on from here - Mirakaze, sorry for all the disturbance, I don't hope, you find it meaningless.


Edited by David_D - November 29 2021 at 03:18
                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

... A key thing though is 'rock'. It should be 'rock music' at least and many bands and artists fail that immediately. I mean what the eff is Kate Bush doing here? She is not prog and never was as much as I adore her. And we can go on and on and on with this argument but I won't. As Christi suggests, Radiohead is one the lesser controversial choices for prog... 

My main point was considering much more than just OK Computer.



was it? It seemed you went straight for that one on the thread.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:



[QUOTE=richardh]Oh good yet another discussion about 'what is prog' . 

And precisely speaking, it's not about what Prog is, but about what it should be considered/defined as to be.
(for this very important distinction, maybe see my article - even I dont think, you have any need for that, richardh)
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127835&SID=6216975ab2282e7cc89bc6f99bze40384490741
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In the Wake of Poseidon...and not...at the black bottom of the sea...
We need Prog.........right?, progardvaark? Star

I had a quick look but got bored quickly (sorry). I grew up in the seventies and was well aware of what 'prog' was. Probably 90% of what is now on the site would fail the definition for all sorts of reasons.

There was a point when I stopped caring about whether something called be prog or not and whether its innovative.

I'm not remotely qualified to answer such questions and really you go down all sorts of rabbit holes and 'how many angels dance on the head of a pin' such arguments. 

What I do know is the so called 'music industry' is not for music but for money making. Literally anyone going against this is progressive. You need talent , a vision and a need to create something. Very little else counts imo.
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pretty good year

Clannad - Landmarks
Clepsydra - Fears
Galahad - Return of the Piper
Kerrs Pink - Art of Complex Simplicity
Promethean - Gazing the Invisible
Tempus Fugit - Tales of a Forgotten World
Andreas Vollenweider - Kryptos

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Dice - Nightmare
Kad - 18.61
Red Jasper - Anagramary
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