Iran missile strike

big blunder, very embarrassing. They spent the last 30 years complaining that USA is barbaric because they shot down one of their passenger planes, then they did the same thing themselves. By that logic, they deserve to be ridiculed for the next 30 years.

Blacksword wrote: I've given up trying to understand the Middle East situation generally. It's far too complex. It was bad enough before the Iraq war, and since then there are no clear lines in the sands. The west works with terrorists to overthrow dictators, but the terrorist factions also fight each other because they are enemies. None of us are really qualified to have an opinion, and to place trust in someone like Donald Trump to untangle this is frankly demented. Bush lit the fuse and threw the bomb into the powder keg. Hillary and Obama got in there and kicked the flaming wreckage about a bit and poured some petrol on the mayhem. Then America elected a disordered narcissistic clown, with the mind of a child, as the solution. You ultimately reap what you sow. A lesson often forgotten.

A lot of what happens there is related to Israel: those who won't promote annihilating zionism are called traitors or hypocrites by others who despise the "dogs" who tell that to them.

I haven't inserted it porpertly. Here it is

Context^.....The invasion phase began on 19 March 2003 and lasted just over one month, including 21 days of major combat operations, in which a combined force of troops from the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland invaded Iraq.

timothy leary wrote: Context^.....The invasion phase began on 19 March 2003 and lasted just over one month, including 21 days of major combat operations, in which a combined force of troops from the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland invaded Iraq.

Thanks for the bold type, don't think I'm going all nationalist and excluding the UK as well. The Context should also note that the UK electorate detested Tony Blair for getting us involved in Iraq. 

Bigger context. Since a bunch of nutcases flew two planes into the Twin Towers, a horrific action causing huge loss of life, the US has responded in a horrendous manner and killed an approximated 460-480,000 people in the Middle East (including 244,000 civilians) to try to quell an external terrorism threat which doesn't exist. They also spent an estimated 7 trillion dollars during the time and the net result is ? Nothing.

Most US citizens are convinced that their country is a force for good in the world and the fact - that's fact above - is just ignored. Inconvenient truth. 

It just goes on and on and on and on, like Vietnam, another failed ideological war, or even the "war on drugs". There is no end to it. The world is sick of it. 

Unlike Vietnam, there is no mass internal dissent or protest and, as a result, a government presided over by perhaps the worst leader in US history - facing impeachment - gets away with carrying on with it. US nationalism seems to preclude any US citizen criticising the actions of their government in terms of foreign policy, it's all USA USA USA time. 

Edited by Davesax1965 - January 19 2020 at 06:33

Shame on human beings for the fact that the history of humanity is really the history of war. A paradigm shift is way overdue but a close look at any gov't makes it seem miles away. This US citizen has never thought of the US as a "force for good".