What is "prog" about Tool and similar bands? |
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aapatsos
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Posted: January 11 2015 at 16:16 | ||
^ I wonder why...
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manofmystery
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Posted: January 11 2015 at 19:46 | ||
Damn kids these days |
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Andy Webb
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Posted: January 11 2015 at 20:34 | ||
How has this thread lasted 6 pages already?
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: January 11 2015 at 20:48 | ||
Because people keep posting.
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micky
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Posted: January 11 2015 at 22:11 | ||
All I know is I love quote pyramids... but I do wonder why as well. |
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SteveG
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 14:07 | ||
Down with the Emperor!
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 14:09 | ||
I also like quote pyramids. |
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 19:42 | ||
Is goat cheese better than cow cheese?
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Svetonio
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Posted: January 13 2015 at 01:14 | ||
I know some people who hate to eat goat cheese, really.
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Gerinski
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Posted: January 13 2015 at 02:01 | ||
Tool are the proof that there's Prog I don't like.
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Bonnek
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Posted: January 13 2015 at 02:16 | ||
Back in 92-93 something I saw them playing on an alt rock festival in Belgium. The opened with the riff from 'A Passage To Bangkok'. What further proof do you need? |
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WeepingElf
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Posted: January 13 2015 at 14:39 | ||
At least we two agree in not liking Tool ;) |
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SteveG
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Posted: January 13 2015 at 18:29 | ||
^I would venture to say that the ratio of people who responded to this endless poll as to liking or disliking Tool is about 50/50.
But the question you asked was "Is Tool prog?" And we answered you regardless of whether we liked the band or not. That's what makes PA so awesome at times. Cheers.
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thwok
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Posted: January 25 2017 at 04:30 | ||
Regarding the issue of like vs. dislike, it's not hard to recognize the "progressiveness" of music you don't like. I love Tool. On the other hand, I absolutely hate Emerson Lake and Palmer's music. I think it confirms all the negative stereotypes used by people who criticize "progressive rock". I do recognize ELP's innovations. Using a specific set of musical elements - longer songs with multiple parts, unusual time signatures - to define "progressive" music limits it. It's how the uninitiated (those who don't have much experience with "progressive" music) think of it. It's unfortunate, and it doesn't help us expose great music to those who don't know it.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: February 01 2017 at 12:23 | ||
I kind of agree even though I do consider Tool to be prog metal. I see it with bands like Muse and maybe the Decemberists. Some of their stuff is prog or proggish but to be considered prog you need more than just a few songs or more than just one or two albums(unless the band only put out one or two albums). Phish could be another example. I don't know them that well but aren't they usually just considered a jam band? Some of their stuff might be proggy but I think most of it is jam band stuff.
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