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Yanns 
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 23:02 |
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Somebody tell me, are those the correct time lengths on this website for this album by VDGG? An album from 1970 can't hold that on an album, let alone the fact that The Emperor in his War-Room would have to be on both sides of the album.
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Joren
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 23:14 |
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Someone has mixed the track length up with "A Plague Of Light House Keepers" from the "Pawn Hearts" album, apparently. The correct length of "The Emperor In His War-Room" is 8:15.
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nousommedusolei
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Posted: June 17 2005 at 00:08 |
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Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it, expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8 minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp!
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con safo
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Posted: June 17 2005 at 01:30 |
 nousommedusolei wrote:
Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it,
expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8
minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp! |
Yea 
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: June 17 2005 at 13:49 |
nousommedusolei wrote:
Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it, expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8 minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp! |
hooray for Banton/Jackson/Evans/Smith!
Excellent track on and equally excellent album. possibly my favorite of 1970. 
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gdub411
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Posted: June 17 2005 at 14:13 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
nousommedusolei wrote:
Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it, expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8 minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp! |
hooray for Banton/Jackson/Evans/Smith!
Excellent track on and equally excellent album. possibly my favorite of 1970.
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When you consider where VdGG were compared to the other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO. It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh.
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Yanns
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Posted: June 17 2005 at 14:21 |
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OK, thanks guys.
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con safo
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 14:10 |
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Does anybody have a misprint on their cd case? Mine says that Emperor is 9:04, but its only about 8:15. I just noticed this a few days ago.
Edited by con safo
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Joren
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:20 |
Mine says 9:04 as well (this is the old edition, not the remaster)
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Duncan
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:27 |
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It's on my copy of the remaster, too
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Joren
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:32 |
strange... 
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BebieM
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:45 |
gdub411 wrote:
When you consider where VdGG were compared to the
other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO.
It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were
lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh. |
Yeah, i thought that too .... the only album of comparable
"progresiveness" at that time was ITCOTCK (and In the Wake of Poseidon)
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beterdedthnred4
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:51 |
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I disagree that 72-74 were lost years. Peter Hammill was putting
out VDGG albums under his own name the whole time. I especially
like Over
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:57 |
BebieM wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
When you consider where VdGG were compared to the other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO. It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh.
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Yeah, i thought that too .... the only album of comparable "progresiveness" at that time was ITCOTCK (and In the Wake of Poseidon)
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Trespass (1970) was pretty proggy too.
A lot of the Canterbury bands were prog as well around 1969-1970 in their own canterbury way.
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gdub411
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 16:17 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
BebieM wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
When you consider where VdGG were compared to the other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO. It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh.
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Yeah, i thought that too .... the only album of comparable "progresiveness" at that time was ITCOTCK (and In the Wake of Poseidon)
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Trespass (1970) was pretty proggy too.
A lot of the Canterbury bands were prog as well around 1969-1970 in their own canterbury way.
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Tresspass is a solid lp...but as far as ahead of it's time compared to H to He...
H to He is lightyears ahead
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gdub411
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 16:21 |
beterdedthnred4 wrote:
I disagree that 72-74 were lost years. Peter Hammill was putting out VDGG albums under his own name the whole time. I especially like Over |
Hammill did some excellent stuff in 73-74...no doubt...as far as 72 went I think he just basically sat on his ass that year. Chameleon in the Shadow of Night and Silent Corner and the Empty Stage are fantastic SOLO lps. Aside from a few tunes, most do not have that VdGG sound whatsoever. I never thought much of In Camera.
PS: Over was in 77' and sounds nothing like a VdGG lp.
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Joren
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 17:18 |
I have a CD with recordings from the lost period 
P.S. Strange that you don't like In Camera
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 17:20 |
beterdedthnred4 wrote:
I disagree that 72-74 were lost years. Peter Hammill was putting out VDGG albums under his own name the whole time. I especially like Over |
Only "Over" is from 1976. 
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Salmacis72
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 18:03 |
VERY strange not to like In Camera, I agree. With the small exception of "Magog", that album is a 10/10.
[useless trivia]H To He Who Am The Only One was the first album Bruce Dickinson ever bought.[/useless trivia]
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Joren
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 18:18 |
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Then Bruce Bruce had exellent taste in music!
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