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Topic: H to He, Who Am the Only One
Posted By: Yanns
Subject: H to He, Who Am the Only One
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 23:02
Somebody tell me, are those the correct time lengths on this website for this album by VDGG? An album from 1970 can't hold that on an album, let alone the fact that The Emperor in his War-Room would have to be on both sides of the album.



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 23:14
Someone has mixed the track length up with "A Plague Of Light House Keepers" from the "Pawn Hearts" album, apparently. The correct length of "The Emperor In His War-Room" is 8:15.


Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 00:08
Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it, expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8 minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp!

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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 01:30
Originally posted by nousommedusolei nousommedusolei wrote:

Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it, expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8 minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp!

Yea


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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 13:49

Originally posted by nousommedusolei nousommedusolei wrote:

Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it, expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8 minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp!

hooray for Banton/Jackson/Evans/Smith!

Excellent track on and equally excellent album.  possibly my favorite of 1970.



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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 14:13
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by nousommedusolei nousommedusolei wrote:

Yes, it sort of made me angry when I bought it, expecting a 23+ minute song and then finding out that that it's about 8 minutes. Still a great song, though. Hooray for Fripp!

hooray for Banton/Jackson/Evans/Smith!

Excellent track on and equally excellent album.  possibly my favorite of 1970.

When you consider where VdGG were compared to the other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO. It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh.



Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 14:21
OK, thanks guys.


Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 14:10
Does anybody have a misprint on their cd case? Mine says that Emperor is 9:04, but its only about 8:15. I just noticed this a few days ago.

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:20

Mine says 9:04 as well (this is the old edition, not the remaster)



Posted By: Duncan
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:27
It's on my copy of the remaster, too


Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:32
strange... 


Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:45
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

When you consider where VdGG were compared to the other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO. It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh.



Yeah, i thought that too .... the only album of comparable "progresiveness" at that time was ITCOTCK (and In the Wake of Poseidon)

 


Posted By: beterdedthnred4
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:51
I disagree that 72-74 were lost years.  Peter Hammill was putting out VDGG albums under his own name the whole time.  I especially like Over


Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:57
Originally posted by BebieM BebieM wrote:

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

When you consider where VdGG were compared to the other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO. It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh.



Yeah, i thought that too .... the only album of comparable "progresiveness" at that time was ITCOTCK (and In the Wake of Poseidon)

 

Trespass (1970) was pretty proggy too.

A lot of the Canterbury bands were prog as well around 1969-1970 in their own canterbury way.



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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 16:17
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by BebieM BebieM wrote:

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

When you consider where VdGG were compared to the other greats it seems to me that they were WAY ahead of the game IMO. It makes me sad of the fact of those 3 years that were lost...72-74....ah....if if's and buts were candy and nuts......sigh.



Yeah, i thought that too .... the only album of comparable "progresiveness" at that time was ITCOTCK (and In the Wake of Poseidon)

 

Trespass (1970) was pretty proggy too.

A lot of the Canterbury bands were prog as well around 1969-1970 in their own canterbury way.

Tresspass is a solid lp...but as far as ahead of it's time compared to H to He...

H to He is lightyears ahead



Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 16:21

Originally posted by beterdedthnred4 beterdedthnred4 wrote:

I disagree that 72-74 were lost years.  Peter Hammill was putting out VDGG albums under his own name the whole time.  I especially like Over

Hammill did some excellent stuff in 73-74...no doubt...as far as 72 went I think he just basically sat on his ass that year. Chameleon in the Shadow of Night and Silent Corner and the Empty Stage are fantastic SOLO lps. Aside from a few tunes, most do not have that VdGG sound whatsoever. I never thought much of In Camera.

PS: Over was in 77' and sounds nothing like a VdGG lp.



Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 17:18

I have a CD with recordings from the lost period

P.S. Strange that you don't like In Camera



Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 17:20

Originally posted by beterdedthnred4 beterdedthnred4 wrote:

I disagree that 72-74 were lost years.  Peter Hammill was putting out VDGG albums under his own name the whole time.  I especially like Over

Only "Over" is from 1976.



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Posted By: Salmacis72
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 18:03

VERY strange not to like In Camera, I agree. With the small exception of "Magog", that album is a 10/10.

[useless trivia]H To He Who Am The Only One was the first album Bruce Dickinson ever bought.[/useless trivia]



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 18:18
Then Bruce Bruce had exellent taste in music!


Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 20:06
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

I have a CD with recordings from the lost period

P.S. Strange that you don't like In Camera

Yeah...i am baffled that everyone likes it so much. To me , it doesn't come close to touching Silent Corner and The Empty Stage or Chameleon In the Shadow of The Night. I, obviously being a HUGE fan of Hammill/Vdgg have listened to that lp over and over trying to GET it. I do not hate it, but I just feel it was a weaker effort on Hammill's part is all.



Posted By: Salmacis72
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 20:40

Quote Yeah...i am baffled that everyone likes it so much. To me , it doesn't come close to touching Silent Corner and The Empty Stage or Chameleon In the Shadow of The Night. I, obviously being a HUGE fan of Hammill/Vdgg have listened to that lp over and over trying to GET it. I do not hate it, but I just feel it was a weaker effort on Hammill's part is all.

Hmm. Well, that's the first time I've heard that from a Hammill fan.  I love Chameleon and Silent Corner, but In Camera has fantastic material too! "Faint-Heart & The Sermon", "The Comet, The Course, The Tail", "Ferret And Featherbird", "Gog", "No More The Sub-Mariner"... just brilliant stuff. My top 3 Hammills are Over, Silent Corner and In Camera.

How do you guys feel about later period PH? I quite like Fireships, The Noise and This.



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