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Thommy Rock ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 22 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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Not sure if suggested before, but TUXEDOOM certainly deserve an addition to the archives.
Since 1977 this Euro-Amercian band play a heady mix of new (no) wave, punk, experimental music, jazz and folk with heavy classical and progressive influences, not unlike The Legendary Pink Dots. Their first two releases appeared originally on The Resident's own Ralph Records label.
Definite Albums: 'Desire' and 'Holy Wars'
Listen to, read about and see them here:
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SaltyJon ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 08 2008 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 28772 |
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Sounds like a pretty interesting band. Where are you suggesting them for? I'll listen tomorrow as I see quite a lot of albums are at least partially available on their Myspace.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37598 |
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It was suggested before and evaluated by the avant team. According to the progfreak voting chart, the team thought it was best for Prog Related (the blue circle means Prog Related and the arrow is a "move" verdict (to be evaluated elsewhere, but I don't know if it was put to the Prog Related team):
Here's a thread where it was suggested before -- for reference purposes: Topic: Tuxedomoon Forum: Suggest New Bands and Artists I haven't listened to much Tuxedomoon, but it has similarities to The Residents. |
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Seyo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
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They certainly deserve addition to PA and I think it is a shame that this has not been done so far ....
But I would suggest Avant team to reconsider them carefully because I think they have enough avantgarde elements, experimentalism, influences from classical music, opera, jazz and film/musicals, so even Eclectic banner would not be out of place.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I remember this band. From my memory I think they would certainly fit in here somewhere.
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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Tuxedomoon should be here, as well as Red Krayola.
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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I'll give them a listen, too.
BTW, I know another artist that was voted unanimously "Move To Prog-Related" by the ZART but ended being added in Avant ![]() |
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memowakeman ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 13033 |
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What a great band, not the best example of progressive rock, but they do have some tendencies. It would be nice if you consider them for addition.
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WalterDigsTunes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
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Absolutely. We need more post-punk here. You can't have "progressive" without the last forward-looking genre in the history of music. |
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14608 |
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Red Krayola "post punk"?
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Let's say "Proto-pre-post punk". |
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14608 |
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....related !
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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...there was rumour in the 80s that the two were one and the same...
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What?
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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is this going anywhere ??, i was thinki of starting a suggestion thread but it seems there is allready one open with some fearly positive opinions towards inclusion and non towards exclusion
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Really? Suggestions threads don't canvas inclusion and non-exclusion opinion -just because a few people has said the might fit here that doesn't mean a whole lot. Six members of the ZART team, including the person who originally championed them voted Prog Related yet none of them proposed Tuxedomoon to the AdminTeam for PR.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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i just pointed on the positive attitude, (not aiming that, that would be waying a teams inclusion desisions) but it shows member of PA would want them, nothing more nothing less, and from what i hear they would not be a odd band in PA, but i also understand why they would not merrit an inclusion as their post-punk and new-wave elements are as strong as the experimental and avant-garde element,
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colorofmoney91 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 16 2008 Location: Biosphere Status: Offline Points: 22774 |
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I was just about to post a Tuxedo Mask picture. He's so dreamy ![]() ![]() |
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lucas ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 06 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 8138 |
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They were signed to Crammed records, a label created by Aksak Maboul's leader. I strongly recommend their album 'holy wars'. They could find their way to RIO.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Andy Webb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
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Not sure they're really fit for ZART. They remind me of a few of the experimental/avant rock and post punk bands that were suggested in the past year or so - experimental for sure, but not exactly fit for the site.
If a SC wants to suggest them to PR, they can go right ahead.
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maario ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2012 Location: Italia Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Tuxedomoon perfectly fits in Prog related. They have at least 5 albums that are "very progy". Holly wars, Desire, You. Ship of Fools, The Ghost Sonata...
Put them please.
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