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    Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:20
Hi. I'm having a very hard time picking which albums to buy. What shall i do. I don't have a single album! Should i like pick up 5 King Crimson albums, or should i buy an album from a band i like - Nektar. Should i get the "classic" ones?
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King Crimson is mandatory.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

King Crimson is mandatory.
What was your first prog albums?
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

King Crimson is mandatory.
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Just some quick, must-haves:

Tales from Topographic Oceans - Yes
Song for America - Kansas
Red - King Crimson
A Passion Play - Jethro Tull
Hemispheres - Rush
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For King Crimson, I'm a Larks' Tongues in Aspic kind of guy, but it probably wouldn't be the best starting point for most,  The début is where I started and it was a good place to start even if it's not my favourite King Crimson album.  In fact, part of why I'm here is because of In the Court of the Crimson King (played a part in my journey).
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First 5 Prog albums(from the 70's) you should get:

Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
Fragile - Yes
Selling England by the Pound - Genesis
Trilogy - ELP
Mirage - Camel
 
If you're into the more adventurous, then replace the Camel one, the ELP one and the Genesis with:
 
H to He Who Am the Only One - Van der Graaf Generator
Octopus - Gentle Giant
Larks' Tongue in Aspic - King Crimson


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But should i start buying the "Greatest" of the prog rock, or should i buy "random" albums, just like a Nektar album?
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You should get whatever you'll enjoy most.
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

First 5 Prog albums(from the 70's) you should get:

Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
Fragile - Yes
Selling England by the Pound - Genesis
Trilogy - ELP
Mirage - Camel


And the second to look into is:

Magma - Kobaia
Soft Machine - Third
Herbie Hancock - Crossings or Sextant
Art Zoyd - Symphonie pour le Jour...
Ralf Nowy - Lucifer's Friend
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Points: 36807 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:57
Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically
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Points: 36807 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 17:14
Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically


Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.

If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically
Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).
Thanks! That's excaxtly what i mean.

But i think i will order these albums soon:

King Crimson: ITCOTCK - Red - LTiA - INWOP - Starless and Bible Black
Yes: Close to the Edge - Fragile - TFTO - The Yes Album - Relayer
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery - ELP (debut) - Tarkus - Trilogy
Genesis: SEBTP - TLLDOB - Foxtrot
Pink Floyd: DSOTM - Animals - The Wall - Wish You Were Here
Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick - Aqualung - Minstrel in the Gallery
VDGG: Pawn Hearts - Godbluff - The Quiet Zone/ The Pleasure Dome

What do you think for a prog "newbie"?
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^those are great choices.
 
Mind you that Aqualung is not a Prog album, yet it's great. I would go for A Passion Play.
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Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically
Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).
Thanks! That's excaxtly what i mean.

But i think i will order these albums soon:

King Crimson: ITCOTCK - Red - LTiA - INWOP - Starless and Bible Black
Yes: Close to the Edge - Fragile - TFTO - The Yes Album - Relayer
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery - ELP (debut) - Tarkus - Trilogy
Genesis: SEBTP - TLLDOB - Foxtrot
Pink Floyd: DSOTM - Animals - The Wall - Wish You Were Here
Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick - Aqualung - Minstrel in the Gallery
VDGG: Pawn Hearts - Godbluff - The Quiet Zone/ The Pleasure Dome

What do you think for a prog "newbie"?


Excellent choices, though I'd like to recommend Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother strictly based on my personal preference. And consider VdGG's H to He, as that was my VdGG starting point and it worked for me. And maybe look into Magma, if you haven't already. Wink


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Points: 32550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 18:47
Can't really argue with that list (although there are some there I don't see why anybody likes, namely ELP's debut and Pawn Hearts).  Also, agree 100% with Pablo- Aqualung is great, not really prog though, get A Passion Play. 

But damn...you must fart money!  Shocked
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Torman Maxt. Do the guy a favor. 
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King Crimson-Larks Tongue In Aspic, Starless and Bible Black, Red, Lizard, and the entire Great Deciever box set.


That is IF you're taking that route....which I wouldn't oppose.
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just make sure that if you get Nektar's A Tab In The Ocean you get the correct copy and not the sad US mix that I'm stuck with


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