Print Page | Close Window

What to buy!

Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Topics not related to music
Forum Name: General Polls
Forum Description: Create polls on topics not related to music
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66333
Printed Date: February 02 2025 at 19:11
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: What to buy!
Posted By: Pimpernal
Subject: What to buy!
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:20
Hi. I'm having a very hard time picking which albums to buy. What shall i do. I don't have a single album! Should i like pick up 5 King Crimson albums, or should i buy an album from a band i like - Nektar. Should i get the "classic" ones?


-------------



Replies:
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:22
King Crimson is mandatory.


Posted By: Pimpernal
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:37
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

King Crimson is mandatory.
What was your first prog albums?

-------------


Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:37
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

King Crimson is mandatory.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:37
Just some quick, must-haves:

Tales from Topographic Oceans
- Yes
Song for America - Kansas
Red - King Crimson
A Passion Play - Jethro Tull
Hemispheres - Rush


-------------
https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:44
For King Crimson, I'm a Larks' Tongues in Aspic kind of guy, but it probably wouldn't be the best starting point for most,  The début is where I started and it was a good place to start even if it's not my favourite King Crimson album.  In fact, part of why I'm here is because of In the Court of the Crimson King (played a part in my journey).


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:45

First 5 Prog albums(from the 70's) you should get:

Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
Fragile - Yes
Selling England by the Pound - Genesis
Trilogy - ELP
Mirage - Camel
 
If you're into the more adventurous, then replace the Camel one, the ELP one and the Genesis with:
 
H to He Who Am the Only One - Van der Graaf Generator
Octopus - Gentle Giant
Larks' Tongue in Aspic - King Crimson


Posted By: Pimpernal
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:51
But should i start buying the "Greatest" of the prog rock, or should i buy "random" albums, just like a Nektar album?

-------------


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:52
You should get whatever you'll enjoy most.

-------------


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:54
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

First 5 Prog albums(from the 70's) you should get:

Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
Fragile - Yes
Selling England by the Pound - Genesis
Trilogy - ELP
Mirage - Camel


And the second to look into is:

Magma - Kobaia
Soft Machine - Third
Herbie Hancock - Crossings or Sextant
Art Zoyd - Symphonie pour le Jour...
Ralf Nowy - Lucifer's Friend


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 16:57
Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.


Posted By: Pimpernal
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 17:02
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically

-------------


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 17:14
Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically


Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.

If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).


Posted By: Pimpernal
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 17:43
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically
Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).
Thanks! That's excaxtly what i mean.

But i think i will order these albums soon:

King Crimson: ITCOTCK - Red - LTiA - INWOP - Starless and Bible Black
Yes: Close to the Edge - Fragile - TFTO - The Yes Album - Relayer
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery - ELP (debut) - Tarkus - Trilogy
Genesis: SEBTP - TLLDOB - Foxtrot
Pink Floyd: DSOTM - Animals - The Wall - Wish You Were Here
Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick - Aqualung - Minstrel in the Gallery
VDGG: Pawn Hearts - Godbluff - The Quiet Zone/ The Pleasure Dome

What do you think for a prog "newbie"?

-------------


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 17:47
^those are great choices.
 
Mind you that Aqualung is not a Prog album, yet it's great. I would go for A Passion Play.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 17:52
Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically
Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).
Thanks! That's excaxtly what i mean.

But i think i will order these albums soon:

King Crimson: ITCOTCK - Red - LTiA - INWOP - Starless and Bible Black
Yes: Close to the Edge - Fragile - TFTO - The Yes Album - Relayer
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery - ELP (debut) - Tarkus - Trilogy
Genesis: SEBTP - TLLDOB - Foxtrot
Pink Floyd: DSOTM - Animals - The Wall - Wish You Were Here
Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick - Aqualung - Minstrel in the Gallery
VDGG: Pawn Hearts - Godbluff - The Quiet Zone/ The Pleasure Dome

What do you think for a prog "newbie"?


Excellent choices, though I'd like to recommend Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother strictly based on my personal preference. And consider VdGG's H to He, as that was my VdGG starting point and it worked for me. And maybe look into Magma, if you haven't already. Wink


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 18:47
Can't really argue with that list (although there are some there I don't see why anybody likes, namely ELP's debut and Pawn Hearts).  Also, agree 100% with Pablo- Aqualung is great, not really prog though, get A Passion Play. 

But damn...you must fart money!  Shocked


-------------
https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 19:15
Torman Maxt. Do the guy a favor. 

-------------


Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 21:10
King Crimson-Larks Tongue In Aspic, Starless and Bible Black, Red, Lizard, and the entire Great Deciever box set.


That is IF you're taking that route....which I wouldn't oppose.


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 21:14
just make sure that if you get Nektar's A Tab In The Ocean you get the correct copy and not the sad US mix that I'm stuck with

-------------


Time always wins.


Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 21:35
Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically
Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).
Thanks! That's excaxtly what i mean.

But i think i will order these albums soon:

King Crimson: ITCOTCK - Red - LTiA - INWOP - Starless and Bible Black
Yes: Close to the Edge - Fragile - TFTO - The Yes Album - Relayer
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery - ELP (debut) - Tarkus - Trilogy
Genesis: SEBTP - TLLDOB - Foxtrot
Pink Floyd: DSOTM - Animals - The Wall - Wish You Were Here
Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick - Aqualung - Minstrel in the Gallery
VDGG: Pawn Hearts - Godbluff - The Quiet Zone/ The Pleasure Dome

What do you think for a prog "newbie"?
 
Nice.  A lot of the essentials of Prog in there.  Although I'm with Logan that I'm quite suprised that you've listened to bands like Art Bears and Gong but haven't listened to the well-known classics yet.Confused


Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: April 05 2010 at 04:55
Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Just noticed your playlist.  Art Bears, Amon Duul II and Gong as well as other excellent ones.  You don't need our help.
Yeah, but thats because i find a lot of bands and then play them alphabetically
Aphabetically.... I wish lastfm had worked for me.  When I was fairly new to this PA site, I would go to the category  ("genre") pages and go through the tracks 'til something grabbed me (not having unlimited time, if it didn't grab me quickly I would move on).  I quickly found that French bands were more likely to appeal to me in various categories. Sampling is a great way -- I'd rather use my own ears to get started than ask others unless my tastes are really defined and I'm looking for something specific.If you find you like a track by an artist you've heard, then get the album it's off.  That worked for me.  I find youtube to be a very good source since I can look up something I already like and discover lots of related music that I will like (and google when I'm looking  for something with well defined parameters).
Thanks! That's excaxtly what i mean.

But i think i will order these albums soon:

King Crimson: ITCOTCK - Red - LTiA - INWOP - Starless and Bible Black
Yes: Close to the Edge - Fragile - TFTO - The Yes Album - Relayer
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery - ELP (debut) - Tarkus - Trilogy
Genesis: SEBTP - TLLDOB - Foxtrot
Pink Floyd: DSOTM - Animals - The Wall - Wish You Were Here
Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick - Aqualung - Minstrel in the Gallery
VDGG: Pawn Hearts - Godbluff - The Quiet Zone/ The Pleasure Dome 
Gentle Giant: Gentle Giant - Acquring the Taste - Three Friends - Octopus - In A Glass House - The Power and the Glory - Free Hand - Interview

What do you think for a prog "newbie"?

Fixed.


-------------
http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win!

The search for nonexistent perfection.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 05 2010 at 06:07
also Kansas - Leftoverture, Point of No Return
Rush - 2112


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 05 2010 at 23:23
Don't buy a Kansas album.  I say this not only because I don't endorse their brand of soft rock pop prog but because you could always pick up the entire Kansas discography on vinyl at someones garage sale for 5 bucks later on. Tongue 
 
In other news, when did this happen: Rawks
being pushed to the brink of a seizure chosing an emoticon now


-------------


Time always wins.


Posted By: Pimpernal
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 09:24
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

just make sure that if you get Nektar's A Tab In The Ocean you get the correct copy and not the sad US mix that I'm stuck with
What is that verison called?

-------------


Posted By: Pimpernal
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 11:18
After the first order i think i'll order these, what do you think?

Rush - 2112 - A Farewell to Kings - Hemispheres - Permanent Waves - Moving Pictures

Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed - Every Good Boy Deserves Favour - On the Threshold of a Dream

Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night - In the Land of Grey and Pink

Banco Del - Darwin! - Io Sono Nato Libero

PFM - Per Un Amico - Storia Di Un Minuto - L'Isola di Niente

Frank Zappa - Hot Rats - Uncle Meat - The Grand Wazoo - Absolutely Free

Pink Floyd - Meddle

Genesis - Nursey Cryme - A Trick of the Tail - Trespass

Mike Oldfield - Amarok - Ommadawn

And then 3 Magma albums, but what should i get of Magma?

-------------


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 11:25
Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

Nice.  A lot of the essentials of Prog in there.  Although I'm with Logan that I'm quite suprised that you've listened to bands like Art Bears and Gong but haven't listened to the well-known classics yet.Confused
It depends where you're coming from. I was a fan of avant-garde jazz before regular jazz, and there are still a fair amount of classic bands that I haven't heard a full album from and probably never will.
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

In other news, when did this happen: Rawks
being pushed to the brink of a seizure chosing an emoticon now
MMA introduced it and has been annoying the hell out of me ever since.


-------------
if you own a sodastream i hate you


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 16:59
Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Hi. I'm having a very hard time picking which albums to buy. What shall i do. I don't have a single album! Should i like pick up 5 King Crimson albums, or should i buy an album from a band i like - Nektar. Should i get the "classic" ones?
 
Forum Home  default.asp - Forum Home > default.asp?C=4 - Topics not related to music > forum_topics.asp?FID=45 - General Polls


-------------
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)


Posted By: Pimpernal
Date Posted: April 07 2010 at 08:36
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Hi. I'm having a very hard time picking which albums to buy. What shall i do. I don't have a single album! Should i like pick up 5 King Crimson albums, or should i buy an album from a band i like - Nektar. Should i get the "classic" ones?




 


<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 align=center ="tableBorder"><T>
<T>
<TR ="tableStatusBar">
<TD>
Forum Home  default.asp - Forum Home > default.asp?C=4 - Topics not related to music > forum_topics.asp?FID=45 - General Polls
</TD></TR>
<TR ="tableStatusBar">
<TD></TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>

I know i posted it a wrong place I

-------------



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd. - http://www.webwiz.co.uk