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    Posted: March 31 2010 at 05:30
is there such thing
i think so
i love punk rock
i love prog
hhhmmmm
the punk rock is the kid inside of me
still angry
still confused
hyperactive
 
i have found a couple of examples of progressive concepts in punk rock
the first two i came across was the band fear
on their debut album "fear- the record"
the songs "camarillo" and "we destroy the family"
both have odd time signatures
and in we destroy the family the guitar player pulls of a slow frippish solo
 
the next 3 i came across were on the 4th descendents album "all"
the songs "impressions", "iceman" and " uranus"
not so much on impressions but very much so on uranus
 
that band broke up and formed a band called ALL
they had some progressive songs
and example would be "charligan"
 
and my last example for the moment is NOFX "the decline"
its a 17 minute punk song that has several movements
very odd for a punk song
 
now before you guy come all down on me and say that there is no way that any of this is progressive keep in mind that all of these bands are punk bands not progressive bands
but to hear a punk band try to do something diffrent is an awesome concept to me considering the amount of talent that the average punk band has
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 05:47
one
word:
Dead
Kennedys.

two
words -
damn. Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 05:47
I can recommend you one band:
Cardiacs, they play prog punk (they even used to call their music pronk...) They are already at ProgArchives, you may check them out there:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1488

There are some of teir songs you may listen for free there. For me, Dirty Boy is amazing...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 05:56
CMX's Kolmikärki is worth mentioning, although it's probably next to impossible to come by outside Finland. The songs range from hardcore to rock to prog to hymn to waltz to shamanistic mumbling. Good stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 10:59
I always regarded Killing Joke as a punk/prog band..
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 12:26
Inner City Unit (featuring Nik Turner of Hawkwind) are another punk prog band. and how about the Stranglers?

Edited by BaldJean - March 31 2010 at 21:38


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 12:50

The Volta/At the drive In/Omar punkprogheavy

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 12:59
Let me seee
 
Floating Anarchyeeee
 
?
Help me I'm falling!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 16:06

NoMeansNo !

Especially the album "Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy?"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 18:42

im glad to see that im not the only one who has noticed prog in punk

this guy timbo was trying to tell me that there was no way to make punk progressive
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 19:17
How about this one (quoted from Wikki)?:

Album/Compact Disc/Cassette [1986]

PiL's 1986 release was simply entitled Album, Compact Disc, or Cassette, depending on the format. The cover's blue typeface and spartan design parodied generic brands; promotional photos featured Lydon in a "generic blue" suit surrounded by generic foods and drinking generic beer. Produced by Bill Laswell (despite Lydon-fuelled faction and disunion) and with many of Laswell's usual rotating cast of musicians, it also featured guitar solos by Steve Vai, considered by Vai himself to be some of his best work. Jonas Hellborg, solo bassist and at the time, member of John McLaughlin's reformed band, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, played bass on the album. Jazz great Tony Williams and legendary Cream drummer Ginger Baker drummed on the album. Controversy reared again, with claims that the album cover and title concept had been stolen from the San Francisco noise/punk band, Flipper, contemporaries of PiL, whose album, Album, featured a similarly unadorned sleeve. Flipper retaliated by naming their next album, Public Flipper Limited. Neil Perry gave Album a positive review in the NME:

"This is a wonderful, stunning and equally confusing record, and working on the theory that you'd never expect to hear the Lydon sneer backed by prime metal riffing, that's exactly what you get. Not everywhere, of course, as proved by the haunting "Rise". And "Ease", by the way, with its shock-horror two minutes plus guitar solo, is quite beautiful...

In the liner notes of PiL's Plastic Box compilation (1999), John Lydon remarked that:

"In some ways Album was almost like a solo album. I worked alone with a new bunch of people. Obviously the most important person was Bill Laswell. But it was during the recording of this album in New York that Miles Davis came into the studio while I was singing, stood behind me and started playing. Later he said that I sang like he played the trumpet, which is still the best thing anyone's ever said to me. To be complimented by the likes of him was special. Funnily enough we didn't use him..."[12]




Edited by Slartibartfast - March 31 2010 at 19:19
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 21:50
there are also the bands of named ARCHITECHTS
and also Propaghandi and they do very so much have
different sounds and progressive writings in music
for each of their last latest release albums.
I may have bad english but I still am very much in love with prog!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:21
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:



How about this one (quoted from Wikki)?:<h3><span id="Album.2FCompact_Disc.2FCassette_.5B1986.5D">Album/Compact
Disc
/Cassette [1986]</span></h3>

PiL's 1986 release was simply entitled Album,
Compact Disc, or Cassette, depending on the format. The
cover's blue typeface and spartan design parodied generic
brands
; promotional photos featured Lydon in a "generic blue" suit
surrounded by generic foods and drinking generic beer. Produced by Bill
Laswell
(despite Lydon-fuelled faction and disunion) and with many
of Laswell's usual rotating cast of musicians, it also featured guitar
solos by Steve Vai, considered by Vai himself to be some of his best
work. Jonas Hellborg, solo bassist and at the time, member of John McLaughlin's reformed band, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, played bass on the
album. Jazz great Tony Williams and legendary Cream drummer Ginger
Baker
drummed on the album. Controversy reared again, with claims
that the album cover and title concept had been stolen from the San
Francisco noise/punk band, Flipper, contemporaries of PiL, whose album, Album, featured a
similarly unadorned sleeve. Flipper retaliated by naming their next
album, Public Flipper Limited. Neil Perry gave Album a
positive review in the NME:



"This is a wonderful, stunning and equally confusing record, and
working on the theory that you'd never expect to hear the Lydon sneer
backed by prime metal riffing, that's exactly what you get. Not
everywhere, of course, as proved by the haunting "Rise". And "Ease", by
the way, with its shock-horror two minutes plus guitar solo, is quite
beautiful<span style="text-decoration: underline;">...</span><sup id="cite_ref-10"><span></span>



In the liner notes of PiL's Plastic Box compilation (1999),
John Lydon remarked that:



"In some ways Album was almost like a solo album. I worked
alone with a new bunch of people. Obviously the most important person
was Bill Laswell. But it was during the recording of this album in New
York that Miles Davis came into the studio while I was
singing, stood behind me and started playing. Later he said that I sang
like he played the trumpet, which is still the best thing anyone's ever
said to me. To be complimented by the likes of him was special. Funnily
enough we didn't use him..."<sup id="cite_ref-11"><span>[</span>12<span>"></span>





That was a very interesting read. Thanks for posting!

I always knew Rotten was a progger at heart..
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:26
and how about Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? they definitely have a punk side too


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:46
^^ Lydon actually said that he was influenced by Magma, Can, Captain Beefheart and Van der Graaf Generator.
He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 10:49
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 11:14
Originally posted by Pablo_P Pablo_P wrote:

I can recommend you one band:
Cardiacs, they play prog punk (they even used to call their music pronk...) They are already at ProgArchives, you may check them out there:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1488

There are some of teir songs you may listen for free there. For me, Dirty Boy is amazing...




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And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 12:11
I always felt like the band Crystal Antlers fit prog/punk pretty well.  Its more of a punk kinda band on acid though, so more of a psych/punk combo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 13:28
Mike Oldfield's Punkaddidle is fine too.
Also: Steve Hillage's 1988 Generator.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 13:45
Originally posted by Citizen Erased Citizen Erased wrote:

Originally posted by Pablo_P Pablo_P wrote:

I can recommend you one band:
Cardiacs, they play prog punk (they even used to call their music pronk...) They are already at ProgArchives, you may check them out there:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1488

There are some of teir songs you may listen for free there. For me, Dirty Boy is amazing...




thisthisthisthisthis


Indeed, this.
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