American Presidents of recent memory

ZOMBIE REAGAN!

Very easy, Reagan.

Epignosis wrote: MovingPictures07 wrote: Very easy, Reagan.

I would vote for the one who was not involved in a war. Is there such a US president from this list?

Oh, let's see.  Nixon got into office promising to have a secret plan to end the Vietnam war while his team negoted behind the scenes to prevent peace, then proceeded to prolong it.  Used dirty tricks that weren't even necessary to gain a second term.  Ford, only gained the office by virtue of being the Vice President.  Thank God Agnew had to resign before Ford got put in the vice slot.  Most memorable for getting shot by Squeaky Fromme and Chevy Chase's godawful impressions of him on Saturday Night Live.  Carter.  Favorite whipping boy of the conservatives.  Didn't make it to a second term because Reagan's team did secret negotiations with the Iranians to prolong the hostages being held.  There is no coincidence in the hostages being released as he was being inaugurated.  Carter at least went on to be a major force for good in post presidency.  Reagan cut taxes on the rich, raised them for the rest of us.  Presided over a ridiculous "defense" build up that enriched "defense" contractors to our detriment.  Contrary to popular mythology he did not end the cold war by doing so.  The Soviet Union was collapsing itself and would have fallen apart all the same.  George HW Bush.  Failure primarily because of the fallout of the godawful Reagan policies.  Unfortunately had a son who would become another godawful president.  Clinton was accused of multiple scandals by his political enemies and then was stupid enough to hand them one that was utterly inconsequential to his role as president.  Would have been a great president had he been as liberal as he was accused of being.  W, most notable for having possibly the most evil vice president in history.  Only got the job because a supreme court dominated by "conservatives" basically appointed him president.  Responsible for throwing away a budget surplus, letting us get attacked by terrorists, two wars that he didn't even bother to finish...

I do believe when it comes to our presidents we are really cursed as a country.

Of course the verdict is still out on Obama.  Like Clinton, unfairly attacked by his political opponents.  Will not be as liberal as he is accused of being and is in serious danger of being a one-termer.  For god's sake man, ignore the "conservatives" and do what's right for the country.


Edited by Slartibartfast - December 13 2009 at 08:18

Slartibartfast wrote:   Carter.  Favorite whipping boy of the conservatives.  Didn't make it to a second term because Reagan's team did secret negotiations with the Iranians to prolong the hostages being held.  There is no coincidence in the hostages being released as he was being inaugurated.

Edited by Henry Plainview - December 13 2009 at 23:03

Henry Plainview wrote: What about bombing Bosnia to stop them from committing genocide?

I would assume that you meant Serbia and that you're talking about the Kosovo war in 1999.
Because I don't remember any bombing on Bosnia, except from the Serbian army against the Croatian forces, then the Bosnian populations between 1991 and 1995.

Well, I cannot tell about internal politics, but Carter is really a mess in the international relations... I mean, he is as communist as an American can be... with double faces and lies all the way... his diplomatic actions against every Latin American Military governments are there, he encourages most of the revelions in Latin America, which is a main problem about the international relation of US. Now they talk about soberanity and respectful of each country government, but Carter was the first to close the army market and promoting international isolation to the military governments in Latin America, where is the independence of the countries...? and then he remains as the priecher of the "left" in whole the continent... for his actions and speeches he seems to encourage every country to reach a local Fidel Castro in every Country... is all I can say about Carter...

Edited by jampa17 - December 14 2009 at 12:56