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Toaster Mantis 
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 12:43 |
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Yeah, I know about things about that Mothers of Invention album that was a parody of the Beatles or Robert Fripp bashing King Crimson's imitators... but does the world of progressive rock have anything similar to for instance the feud between Metallica and Megadeth?
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 13:47 |
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There's the famous feud between Mike Patton of Faith No More and Mr Bungle, and Anthony Keidis of RHCP. Patton's on this site. That's as close as I can get ...
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 14:06 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Bungle#Feud_with_Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers Pretty funny.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 15:08 |
Oh. Not sure if that one really counts, though, because Mr. Bungle is the only band of those two that's progressive... but it's still funny. 
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b_olariu
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 15:16 |
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Yes of course are rivalries between prog bands, but i consider only in a gentle manner. Each one tryies to bring the best to the listner. Anyway in the '70's this rivalry was at it's peak, Gentle Giant, Genesis, Yes, Camel, to name a fiew, were shoulder to shoulder in prog battle.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 15:27 |
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I don't mean that kind of friendly competition, I mean something at least bordering on feuds.
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 15:31 |
I'm sure a feud would exist between Neal Morse and Gorgoroth and Impaled Nazarene.... 
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Isengard
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 15:51 |
Not Prog for the most part, but a funny recent one (35 years late) involves Jack Bruce of Cream stating that Zeppelin are crap and that Page is no Clapton.
I consider Clapton more a blues guitarist compared to Page, who has tried and excelled at different forms of music.
Just Jack Bruce trying to be relevant again!
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mellors
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 16:08 |
Another rather vague one, since Andrew Lloyd Webber has a variations album under various artists on here, Roger Waters has that lyric on his Amused to Death album (Its a Miracle) in response to the similarity between the Phantom of the Opera intro and parts of Echoes. We cower in our shelters, with our hands over our ears
Lloyd Webber's awful stuff runs for years and years and years
An earthquake hits the theatre, but the operetta lingers
Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his f**king fingers
It's a miracle And in related/crossover terms, there always seems to be Radiohead vs Muse arguments, though I dont believe there are any disagreements between the band members themselves.
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 20:52 |
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Of course there is: ELP fans vs the rest
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 00:06 |
Mike Portnoy VS Geoff Tate anyone?
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 00:07 |
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There was a small rivalry between Zappa/ the Mothers and Velvet Underground, because VU's album got released before Freak Out, which Frank wasn't happy with or something like that. I read about it a long time ago.
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jammun
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 00:17 |
There were rivalries -- Emerson vs. Wakeman for example -- but not to the point of violence as in Nancy Kerrigan vs. Tonya Harding or anything. That would have certainly upped the ante, say Wakeman or Emerson hires some thug to whack the others' fingers 
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 01:37 |
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Steve Walsh from Kansas can't stand Phil Collins said hes the most arrogant man in the buisness I read also Walsh disliked Freddy Mercury but says the other guys in Queen are OK
Edited by Easy Money - November 14 2008 at 01:48
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 02:19 |
 JayDee wrote:
Mike Portnoy VS Geoff Tate anyone?
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oh, yeah.. the two bands were supposed to tour together but 'Ryche dropped out the last minute to tour with Iron Maiden and Mike was maaad!
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 03:48 |
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I recall Steve Wilson was very antagonistic towards Dream Theater for some time. However, the hatchet has now been buried (not in Portnoy's head!).
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 04:46 |
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Frippertron
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 06:57 |
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 09:54 |
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I've read an interview of Chris Cutler, published in 1991, about R.I.O. and the progressive rock movement: he expressed some critics about King Crimson, especially on the subject of improvisation. He also denied the invention of the device known as "frippertronics" by Robert Fripp.
I would be curious to read other interviews from R.I.O. musicians talking about other progressive bands or sub-genres. Plus, I'm still trying to understand what Roger Trigaux (Present, Univers Zero) meant when he said: "Art Zoyd is not a band in opposition anymore" (Traverses # 2, if I'm not wrong)...
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 09:59 |
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Prog musicians are a bunch of peace-loving hippies, they don't appear to get involved with that much in-fighting. David Gilmour was once very dismissive of The Moody Blues 'poets-corner' style, but it was never a feud as such. And even the disagreements within bands like Pink Floyd are more for public amusement than pistols at dawn, as there appears to be one member of the band (ie Nick Mason) who is prepared to broker a tenuous peace between rivals.
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