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Blacksword
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Topic: Sabbaths Dio albums Posted: October 03 2008 at 02:57 |
Inspired by the other Sabbs poll...
I vote Heaven & Hell. Fantastic album! Mob Rules is great, and although the band had Vinnie Appice on the drums, and the production was slightly better, MR lacks some of the emotion and substance of it's predecessor, IMO.
'Die Young' is also one of my favorite Sabbath songs
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Jared
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 03:00 |
Die Young was one of my favourite songs as a teenager...
Heaven & Hell 5/5
Mob Rules 4.5/5
Dehumaniser 3.5/5
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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b_olariu
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 03:57 |
Heaven and hell is my fav Sabbath album ever, Dio shines on every track, awesome album
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Blacksword
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 05:17 |
^^Agree. In particular 'Children of the Sea' Brilliant performance!
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Jared
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 05:28 |
^^ I do like Mob Rules though...I think its quite underrated...'Falling Off The Edge Of The World' in particular, is a corker...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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poslednijat_colobar
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 05:35 |
Heaven and Hell is not only the best album with Dio,but one of the best albums by Black Sabbath!It's Beautiful.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 08:25 |
No contest, it's "heaven and hell" one of my fav SABBATH albums.
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The Doctor
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 08:33 |
I feel kind of sorry for Mob Rules, and agree with Fandango that it's an underrated album. But, Heaven & Hell is my second fav. Sabbath album of all, just behind Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
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progmetalhead
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 09:55 |
No competition really, although Mob Rules is an excellent album in its own right H & H is a classic.
Up with Vol.4 and SBS.
Saw them at Hammersmith on the H & H tour in 1980.
A night I won't forget in a hurry.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 17:01 |
Haven't heard Mob Rules, so I can't vote...
Though I'm not keen on buying it, since Dio isn't my cup of tea, with some few exceptions, Rainbow's debut(yeah I know..). As for Heaven and Hell, it has very good riffs and ideas, but Dio's voice ruins those great ideas.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: October 04 2008 at 03:03 |
Heaven and Hell! Awesome album! Mob Rules is far from bad, though. It's underrated!
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Raff
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Posted: October 04 2008 at 03:11 |
fandango wrote:
Die Young was one of my favourite songs as a teenager...
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Not a teenager anymore, I'm afraid, but I still love that song to death (sorry for the pun! ). Actually, H&H is one of my favourite albums of all time (I even reviewed it some time ago, though my reviews are not as readily visible now as they used to be) - an absolute cracker, with Dio in top form. That said, M ob Rules is a very good album as well (though not on a par with its predecessor), with a couple of near-masterpieces in "The Sign of the Southern Cross" and "Falling Off the Edge of the World".
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WaywardSon
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Posted: October 04 2008 at 20:15 |
Ghost Rider sums it up well, Heaven and Hell is a classic with probably Iommi´s best guitar solo on "Lonely is the word"
Mob Rules is also a great album though.
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BroSpence
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 01:06 |
Heaven and Hell is a master-power-spectacular wham to the face. I love it. Mob Rule was good, but not even close to the degree of H&H.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 11:50 |
Both albums are poor cant stand that little dwarf Dio
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Blacksword
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Posted: October 06 2008 at 06:18 |
No love for Mob Rules at all! At least not in the voting..
Oh well, I would agree that it is an underated album. I dont think there are any really weak tracks on it, it's just that the best tracks are not as good as the best on H&H.
One thing's for sure, Mob Rules is a great 'play loud' album. Vinnie Appices drums sound brilliant.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 16 2008 at 11:19 |
Heaven and Hell is a very good album.
Mob Rules is a good album
guess my vote
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Blacksword
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Posted: October 17 2008 at 02:41 |
Hawkwise wrote:
Both albums are poor cant stand that little dwarf Dio
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Poor in what respect? Is it the songs you dont like, or Dio's voice..?
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cobb2
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Posted: October 17 2008 at 02:51 |
Hardly a poll- H&H against Mob Rules. And hardly a surprise on the votes. Hawkwise: strange comment for an iconic rock voice.
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Posted: October 17 2008 at 03:49 |
Blacksword wrote:
No love for Mob Rules at all! At least not in the voting.. |
Maybe not in the voting, Andy, but the problem you have here is the sheer brilliance of what Sabbath came up with when everyone expected them to fail big time without Ozzy.
Heaven & Hell's an astonishingly good, fresh, well written & well produced album & is easily in their top three releases right across their career.
Having said that though - with tracks like 'Falling Off The Edge Of The World', 'Sign Of The Southern Cross' & 'Country Girl' ( what a riff!), Mob Rules was a great successor
If you want to give Mob Rules a chance, put it in a poll against 'Live Evil'
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