Sabbaths Dio albums
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Topic: Sabbaths Dio albums
Posted By: Blacksword
Subject: Sabbaths Dio albums
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 02:57
Inspired by the other Sabbs poll...
I vote Heaven & Hell. Fantastic album! Mob Rules is great, and although the band had Vinnie Appice on the drums, and the production was slightly better, MR lacks some of the emotion and substance of it's predecessor, IMO.
'Die Young' is also one of my favorite Sabbath songs
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 03:00
Die Young was one of my favourite songs as a teenager...
Heaven & Hell 5/5
Mob Rules 4.5/5
Dehumaniser 3.5/5
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 03:57
Heaven and hell is my fav Sabbath album ever, Dio shines on every track, awesome album
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 05:17
^^Agree. In particular 'Children of the Sea' Brilliant performance!
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 05:28
^^ I do like Mob Rules though...I think its quite underrated...'Falling Off The Edge Of The World' in particular, is a corker...![Big%20smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 05:35
Heaven and Hell is not only the best album with Dio,but one of the best albums by Black Sabbath!It's Beautiful.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 08:25
No contest, it's "heaven and hell" one of my fav SABBATH albums.
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 08:33
I feel kind of sorry for Mob Rules, and agree with Fandango that it's an underrated album. But, Heaven & Hell is my second fav. Sabbath album of all, just behind Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
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Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 09:55
No competition really, although Mob Rules is an excellent album in its own right H & H is a classic.
Up with Vol.4 and SBS.
Saw them at Hammersmith on the H & H tour in 1980.
A night I won't forget in a hurry.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 17:01
Haven't heard Mob Rules, so I can't vote...
Though I'm not keen on buying it, since Dio isn't my cup of tea, with some few exceptions, Rainbow's debut(yeah I know..). As for Heaven and Hell, it has very good riffs and ideas, but Dio's voice ruins those great ideas.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: October 04 2008 at 03:03
Heaven and Hell! Awesome album! Mob Rules is far from bad, though. It's underrated!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 04 2008 at 03:11
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: October 04 2008 at 20:15
Ghost Rider sums it up well, Heaven and Hell is a classic with probably Iommi´s best guitar solo on "Lonely is the word"
Mob Rules is also a great album though.
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 05 2008 at 01:06
Heaven and Hell is a master-power-spectacular wham to the face. I love it. Mob Rule was good, but not even close to the degree of H&H.
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: October 05 2008 at 11:50
Both albums are poor cant stand that little dwarf Dio
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 06 2008 at 06:18
No love for Mob Rules at all! At least not in the voting..
Oh well, I would agree that it is an underated album. I dont think there are any really weak tracks on it, it's just that the best tracks are not as good as the best on H&H.
One thing's for sure, Mob Rules is a great 'play loud' album. Vinnie Appices drums sound brilliant.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 11:19
Heaven and Hell is a very good album.
Mob Rules is a good album
guess my vote
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 02:41
Hawkwise wrote:
Both albums are poor cant stand that little dwarf Dio
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Poor in what respect? Is it the songs you dont like, or Dio's voice..?
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Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 02:51
Hardly a poll- H&H against Mob Rules. And hardly a surprise on the votes. Hawkwise: strange comment for an iconic rock voice.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 03:49
Blacksword wrote:
No love for Mob Rules at all! At least not in the voting.. |
Maybe not in the voting, Andy, but the problem you have here is the sheer brilliance of what Sabbath came up with when everyone expected them to fail big time without Ozzy.
Heaven & Hell's an astonishingly good, fresh, well written & well produced album & is easily in their top three releases right across their career.
Having said that though - with tracks like 'Falling Off The Edge Of The World', 'Sign Of The Southern Cross' & 'Country Girl' (what a riff!), Mob Rules was a great successor
If you want to give Mob Rules a chance, put it in a poll against 'Live Evil'
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 04:12
I've only heard Mob Rules so I can't really pick a favourite here. It does remind me, though, that there is a rather newer German heavy metal band called "Mob Rules" after the album... wouldn't it be more grammatically sound if that band had just been called "Mob Rule" instead?
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Posted By: TheCrimsonIdol
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 06:29
Mob Rules is probably my favourite Sabbath album with Dio, although Heaven and Hell has my favourite Sabbath song "Lady Evil".
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 07:15
I understand why Dehumanizer is not listed among the choices...
H&H, followed by...The devil you know (I know it was not yet available at the time the poll was created).
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 12:48
Heaven and Hell is the only Sabbath album I ever purchased. It is that good.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 12:51
^ no love for Ozzy-era albums ?
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 22:07
I support "Mob Rules". The quality is not bad. As for the quality of the overall tune, room is felt by me.
By the way, I like "Lonely Is The Word".
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 03:42
Where's Dehumaniser and The Devil You Know (yeah, yeah, I know its called Heaven and Hell, but the band on that record is basically the Mob Rules/Dehumaniser lineup of Sabbath) on the poll?
Anyway, I vote Heaven and Hell. Probably in my top five Sabbath albums ever, Ozzy era or post-Ozzy.
Heaven and Hell- 11/10 Mob Rules- 9/10 Dehumanizer- 7/10 The Devil You Know- 7/10
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 13:32
Went with Mob Rules, every bit as good as H&H for me, only less iconic. H&H was a revelation, Mob the confirmation.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 14:45
lucas wrote:
^ no love for Ozzy-era albums ?
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Nope. Not a metal fan and I really cannot stand Ozzy's voice. The first album has some good musical qualities but I also felt the songs are dumbed down a lot from Paranoid on.
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