old school is better

the old school of prog, with leanings towards classical music   long songs that take you on an epic journey, like  Tarkus, by Elp; 'Close To the Edge' by Yes," 'Twas Held In I" by Procal Harum, "Singring And The Glass Guitar" on Todd Rundgren/ Utopia's 'Ra' album  "Epitath", King Crimson, etc., are all so much more interesting than the weak material out there on the radio...I do not know anything about today's prog but these are some of the more interesting pieces I go by...

Man Overboard wrote: why not learn something about today's prog?

I concur. New prog has much to offer, in my opinion. And I post this while listening to Starless & Bible Black.

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Topic: old school is better

If the reviews are anything to go by (and I'm sure they are), then taking the listener on an epic journey is actually a feature of modern prog.

I certainly think that the live performances of the old days were much better than today's prog.  There seemed to be a lot more emphasis on production and theatrics than there is today.  There are good bands out there today peforming prog, but to see shows like ELP where Keith Emerson is twirling circles in the air with a grand piano, and Peter Gabriel in Genesis dressing up like the Slipperman are long gone. Musicianship and over the top theatrics is what I miss about today's prog.  Perhaps the lack of today's commercialism in prog is why these elaborate productions are missing (too expensive).  But the lack of commercialism has it's advantages too (able to get good seats at a concert :) ).

I'm listening to 'Just an illusion' by Imagination as I'm typing and boy is it w**k.

I do hope this is not the new school of Prog

BTW, best old school - VdGG, best new school - VdGG

Old School was a pretty funny movie, but I wouldn't say that it was Will Ferrel's best...

Well i have to say i believe i have a great understanding of "old school prog" and of "new school prog" and still i believe that although with "the new svhool" prog is waking up again with some oldies now starting to make new appearances again i believe its on a good way, but nevertheless the "old school" is better since it was the beggining and the first time it happened, they began it all, they made ir first, and they made it Art. The new ones, although having magnificent works theyre still missing that something that the old ones had. I cant quite explain it, but just listen to VDGG and theyre still going, listen to PFM then, and theyre too still going on! Pashion for the music I say.

LeInsomniac wrote: Well i have to say i believe i have a great understanding of "old school prog" and of "new school prog" and still i believe that although with "the new svhool" prog is waking up again with some oldies now starting to make new appearances again i believe its on a good way, but nevertheless the "old school" is better since it was the beggining and the first time it happened, they began it all, they made ir first, and they made it Art. The new ones, although having magnificent works theyre still missing that something that the old ones had.

I agree; I think a problem with "new school" prog is that there's too much reliance on genre conventions and the "old school" prog mindset.  Yeah, it's great that they're incorporating elements of other styles, but it still seems more "regressive" than "progressive".  I'm sure that this is an unfair blanket statement (since I haven't heard every new prog band out there); I haven't heard every new prog band out there, and I'm sure there are plenty of groups to whom this doesn't apply...

I'm sick of these threads.