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    Posted: August 07 2006 at 16:13
As we all know, these bands were the most famous in the eighties era. Overall, Marillion the most. Anyway iam curious which band do you prefer and why ? Maybe most of you will chose marillion. I hope for some IQ choices tho. Personaly, i would chose IQ by a mile, dont know why, but i really love their stuff, especially from Nicholls era of course. Marillion is great band too, but i cant find there a such great album, sorry. Even script (except of superb first song) is not superb album imo. Wake, Ever, Sub, Seventh house - oh wonderful albums ! Marillion - Script - good album, maybe their early stuff (grendel etc.) is really superb.

btw. my favourite band is Genesis (a big fan of seventies).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 16:16
Marillion. I enjoy every album I have by them except Holidays in Eden. IQ is good, but they seem rather samey and not as compelling as Marillion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 16:16
IQ by a mile, too. I find there's much greater compositional depth top IQ's music that gives it a much longer shelf-life than Marillion's. I was a big fan of Marillion up until Misplaced Childhood, which was a metaphorical kick in the nuts. The Wake - which was released at about the same time - might have been a patchy album, but the highlights are unmatched by anything Marillion ever did, and IQ have continued to deliver during the 90's until present day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 16:21
Originally posted by Titan Titan wrote:

As we all know, these bands were the most famous in the eighties era. Overall, Marillion the most. Anyway iam curious which band do you prefer and why ? Maybe most of you will chose marillion. I hope for some IQ choices tho. Personaly, i would chose IQ by a mile, dont know why, but i really love their stuff, especially from Nicholls era of course. Marillion is great band too, but i cant find there a such great album, sorry. Even script (except of superb first song) is not superb album imo. Wake, Ever, Sub, Seventh house - oh wonderful albums ! Marillion - Script - good album, maybe their early stuff (grendel etc.) is really superb.

btw. my favourite band is Genesis (a big fan of seventies).

i am sorry if this has been posted already. 
 
I prefer IQ as well.  I like the way they mix styles from all of the prog giants of the 70's. They also encorporate a bit of fusion as well, all be it in a subtle kind of way, which I rather enjoy. I had a friend over the other day who is a drummer by the way and we were talking and I just happened to have Dark Matter on in the background. After a while he remarked out of the blue how good these guys are. He had not heard of them before.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 16:21
Yeah if you look at IQ albums from 90, its really amazing, they are still great, maybe even better than in the eigthies ! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 16:35
I enjoy both bands; however, in my opinion, IQ doesn't come close to Marillion. I will give credit to IQ in that they've always been a progressive band first; whereas Marillion is more of a modern rock band with progressive characteristics. That being said, in terms of quality in the music, lyrics, production, and all-around total package of what it takes to be a high caliber band, Marillion beats out IQ by a longshot. I never have the goosebump moments with IQ the way I do with Marillion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:25

Although they are nowhere near my top 10 list, I will always choose Marillion by a mile over IQ.

I own the majority of Marillion albums, both Fish and Hogarth eras, and, whilst certain albums don't do anything for me eg: This Strange Engine, Brave, Radiation, others are very good indeed. All the Fish era ones are strong, as are Marbles, Season's End and Afraid Of Sunlight.
I own The Seventh House and Ever by IQ, and have heard parts of The Wake. Whilst I do enjoy The Seventh House, I find Ever weak to the point of insipidness, uninspired and even derivative, eg: I think it's the third track that starts off like a blatant rip off of Queen's Now I'm Here.
What I heard of The Wake didn't inspire me either. Now, I haven't heard Dark Matter yet, and believe it is very good. Nevertheless, got to go with Marillion here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:25
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Marillion. I enjoy every album I have by them except Holidays in Eden. IQ is good, but they seem rather samey and not as compelling as Marillion.


I agree with everything you just said, except that I love Holidays in Eden, too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:33
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Marillion. I enjoy every album I have by them except Holidays in Eden.

Agree with you there 100% (although HiE has its moments). IQ, on the other hand, to me is a fantastic band that rely more on complexities and little technical aspects than Marillion do, but I've liked ever IQ album I've heard so far so I can't really complain.

I choose Marillion, by the way.Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:34

Neo-prog is my least favourite sub-genre, but I have heard Script For A Jester's Tear by Marillion and I don't mind it, I guess neo-prog hasn't really captured my attention yet.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:39
I only have a few albums of IQ and both are amongst my favourites- 'Dark Matter' and 'The Wake'. Last year I'd have said IQ regardless as Marillion did little for me, but this year they matured into one of my fave bands of the genre. I prefer the Fish era (like every album in that period) but 'Season's End' is a great album too. I think I'd declare it as equal- both are sublime bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:41
Marillion is my favourite band so I'll vote for them Wink
For me it's a combination of great musicianship and the mostly wellbalanced incorporation of emotions in their music.
I'm a fan of the later work though, I often think the Fish era sounds dated (although I like it mind you Wink)

I like IQ's most recent couple of albums, but can't listen to their 80s work, somehow the vocals sound different.. seems the vocals progressed over the years, eh? LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:45
I like Holidays In Eden, as well. It may be light when compared to most Marillion albums from either incarnation; but, a weak Marillion album is still head and shoulders above most of the schlock out there.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 17:53
<<I'm a fan of the later work though>>

Tristan, sometimes I think you and I are the only ones who admit it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 18:00
I like Hogarth and Fish era equally. They're just different.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 18:02
I own every Marillion album and every IQ album.  And although I think Marillion has the broader oeuvre and a more defined "sound," I enjoy listening to both bands equally.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 18:09
    Marillion by (very) far. I haven't heard all IQ albums yet (three albums only), but as I see it they've never had much courage to experiment as Marillion did so many times and (IMHO) succeeded every time to make awesome music.
 
  At last I see someone enjoys Holidays in Eden... One of my favourites by the way. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 18:54
I was reading an article on IQ and they were pretty harsh on Marillion because (as they said) Marillion sort of got away from the more progressive side. I don't think they've gotten away from it entirely. As I've described them, they're a modern rock band with progressive characteristics. It almost sounded like sour grapes to me. Besides, Marillion has really gained some ground with their last couple of albums. It also sounds as if next year's convention is going to be huge.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 19:04
<<At last I see someone enjoys Holidays in Eden... One of my favourites by the way. >>

One of the reasons why I enjoy Holidays is Hogarth's vocal performance. "Cover My Eyes" is pretty much a pop song; but, his vocals are amazing. I just chuckle when I think of a quote by a fellow PA member stating that Hogarth has a 'terrible voice'. Not sure just who they're listening to.

Great songs for Holidays are "Splintering Heart" and "The Party". Still love those tunes....and they're very progressive.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2006 at 19:38
I love both bands, but being introduced to Marillion back in the 80's and only recently discovering IQ, I can say that IQ brings me greater pleasure as it is fresher to me.
 
I just love Subterrainia to death. I love, how it can sound beautiful one moment and sinister the next. That, along with being a concept lp makes this one very special to me.
 
I also like Dark Matter quite a bit as well, although I think the above lp is better.
 
..the other two lps I have heard were The Wake and The Seventh House and they were misses for me. I found them bland.
 
Recently I have picked up the 24 bit remastered version lps of the Fish era and that has really rekindled my love for the Fish era Marillion, so in a month I may be saying Marillion over IQ. Smile
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