Why do Asia get 'dissed'?

To answer the headline; because they suck donkey balls, especially if you consider the heritage of the players involved.

And being into Asia certainly isn't proof that you're gay (rather the opposite, I would say - AOR is guy's music); it's just an indication that you may need to replace the batteries in your crappitude detector.

Teaflax wrote: To answer the headline; because they suck donkey balls, especially if you consider the heritage of the players involved. And being into Asia certainly isn't proof that you're gay (rather the opposite, I would say - AOR is guy's music); it's just an indication that you may need to replace the batteries in your crappitude detector.

Edited by necromancing777 - June 17 2006 at 18:03

necromancing777 wrote: I enjoy Riverside, Mars Volta, Dream Theater, Yes, ELP, King Crimson far more than Asia.

And I enjoy dark chocolate, good tea, marzipan, single malt whiskey and hot sex far more than being hit over the head with a brick.

necromancing777 wrote: Though I do think this is the typical response to Asia, which is what I really don't understand.

Why not? It's AOR; music made to pour out of your radio without offense and nestle in your brain stem with its simple, familiar and repetitive songs. It deserves no less scorn than all other mass-marketed music that doesn't challenge the listener in any way - it probably deserves more since all the perpetrators obviously had better things in them.

I don't think they get singled out for more mainstream abuse than others of their ilk, but I could be wrong about that. Their heritage would certainly be a factor in that, if that were the case.


Edited by Teaflax - June 17 2006 at 18:12

necromancing777 wrote: You're a crafty one aren't ye?

I'm just someone trying to make a difference. All glory to the artists who inspire me.

"Heat of the Moment" is on my playlist of songs to blast really loud in the car, as are Europe's "The Final Countdown" and Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again."

Well I like em. There Aura album is class and the only poor albums they made were IMO. Arena & Astra.

stonebeard wrote: "Heat of the Moment" is on my playlist of songs to blast really loud in the car, as are Europe's "The Final Countdown" and Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again."   Who's living in the 80s? I'm super !

I guess I can see both point-of-views. I like Asia because they came on the scene when I was a mere teenager....and before any prog snob-dome had a chance to infect me. I was aware of the bands these guys came from, but unaware of how engrained they were in the fabric of progressive music. To me, it was good music and easy to listen to.

On the other hand, Asia had a completely different agenda from Yes, ELP, King Crimson or UK. I bet that torqued the radical fans of the bands from which they came. Here you have 4 brilliant musicians joining forces, and what comes out is completely different.

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necromancing777 wrote: I mean, I'll defend contemporary figurative painting over abstract expressionism any day of the week. But that doesn't mean I don't like some abstract works.

Huh? What contemporary art - respected art, that is - is there that is primarily figurative? Not much that I can think of. Apart from hyperrealism in the 60's, purely illustrative or representational art hasn't really been much of a force in art since the early 20th century.

I mean, unless you count someone like Francis Bacon, whose paintings certainly qualify as "paintings of people that can (sort of) be recognized", but that's stretching the definition a bit.

Anyway, to get back on topic; I think AOR gets slammed from both sides of the spectrum, because the non-mainstream snobs such as myself find it too safe and common, whereas the hit-loving crowd probably find it a bit lacking in other aspects that are popular now, such as danceability and/or cute-girl singer or for not being aggressive enough (because post-Metallica's Black Album and Nirvana, that aspect really has been turned up quite a bit).

And, you know, there was quite a bit of good music in the 80's (scroll down for my personal list of a few of the 5-star albums produced during that decade). There's absolutely no need to blame that decade for its sins any more than other decades.

Teaflax wrote: necromancing777 wrote: I mean, I'll defend contemporary figurative painting over abstract expressionism any day of the week. But that doesn't mean I don't like some abstract works. Huh? What contemporary art - respected art, that is - is there that is primarily figurative? Not much that I can think of. Apart from hyperrealism in the 60's, purely illustrative or representational art hasn't really been much of a force in art since the early 20th century.

Edited by necromancing777 - June 17 2006 at 21:18