Why do Asia get 'dissed'?
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Topic: Why do Asia get 'dissed'?
Posted By: necromancing777
Subject: Why do Asia get 'dissed'?
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 17:40
The comedy 'The 40 Year Old Virgin' has an inside joke that "if you like Asia, it's a sign that you're gay". Not that there is anything wrong with being gay (I'm not gay just for the record). 
But this is used to poke fun at the brilliant music of Wetton/Howe/Downes/Palmer. I know some consider their 80's AOR, less-proggy sound a type of sell out perhaps. But the original line-up is reportedly re-uniting this year for a tour to mark their 25th anniversary.
 Where's the love for Asia? ------------- 
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 17:54
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To answer the headline; because they suck donkey balls, especially if you consider the heritage of the players involved. And being into Asia certainly isn't proof that you're gay (rather the opposite, I would say - AOR is guy's music); it's just an indication that you may need to replace the batteries in your crappitude detector. -------------  
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:02
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Posted By: necromancing777
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:02
 Okay, fair enough. But I don't think that listening to Asia or Journey means one needs to upgrade their "crappitude" detector. I enjoy Riverside, Mars Volta, Dream Theater, Yes, ELP, King Crimson far more than Asia. Though I do think this is the typical response to Asia, which is what I really don't understand.  -------------
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Teaflax wrote:Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:03
^ too late, you said something positive about Asia. Now they'll always hold it against you ... like "hey, aren't you the guy who likes Asia?".
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:11
I don't think they get singled out for more mainstream abuse than others of their ilk, but I could be wrong about that. Their heritage would certainly be a factor in that, if that were the case. -------------
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Posted By: necromancing777
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:19
You're a crafty one aren't ye? -------------
"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash, But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash." |
Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:21
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Posted By: robertplantowns
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:45
Take it from somebody whose top artist for the week is THOM YORKE, who of course does not write simple, familiar or repetitive songs. (yes i've heard his solo album) Talk about subjectivity! ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:49
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"Heat of the Moment" is on my playlist of songs to blast really loud in the car, as are Europe's "The Final Countdown" and Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again."
Who's living in the 80s? I'm super
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:14
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Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:21
| Well I like em. There Aura album is class and the only poor albums they made were IMO. Arena & Astra. |
Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:24
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Where Aura album?
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:36
The Final Countdown got 4.5 stars on AllMuisc!
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:47
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The reason they were a disappointment and are not favorably looked upon was that after UK who did live up to everything they were hyped to be if for just one album, ASIA was the antithesis of that. When I heard this line up was getting together to create some music I thought this could be the best band ever. Well at least for the 80's. They did make radio friendly material smack dab in the most popular years of MTV. With the pedigree they had there should have been something, one thing on that first album that a least nodded to their heritage and they did not do it. Geoffry Downs was no Eddie Jobson and there in lies the difference. Jobson wrote some tremendous music for UK Downs wrote some average music for Yes and Asia.
I don't hate the music for what it is its much better than many of their contemporaries but it could have been so much more. If I wanted to hear Carl Palmer keep time well... I never want to hear that. ------------- 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:51
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I guess I can see both point-of-views. I like Asia because they came on the scene when I was a mere teenager....and before any prog snob-dome had a chance to infect me. I was aware of the bands these guys came from, but unaware of how engrained they were in the fabric of progressive music. To me, it was good music and easy to listen to.
On the other hand, Asia had a completely different agenda from Yes, ELP, King Crimson or UK. I bet that torqued the radical fans of the bands from which they came. Here you have 4 brilliant musicians joining forces, and what comes out is completely different. E ------------- 
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Posted By: necromancing777
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:51
Right on! I grew up in the 80's. So for me, some of the first music I ever heard as a kid was "Heat of the Moment", "Hungry Like The Wolf", "Owner of a Lonely Heart", "Every Breath You Take", "Little Red Corvette", "Sussudio", etc.
Perhaps there is some "elitism" on the part of some prog listeners (I could be wrong), that draws resentment from the "lower classes" of music (AOR, Top 40, C&W, Hip Hop, etc).
Now I love prog (Yes, Genesis, Rush, ELP, Marillion, Radiohead, Godspeed You Black Emperor, etc.), and I also like other music such as: Fela Kuti, Sun Ra, Philip Glass (try sitting through the entire 60+ minutes of 'Music With Changing Parts'), but my wife loves Adult Top 40 and (cringe with me here
 ) "Today's Hot Country". Music, like any art is subjective and there are those who will stick up for "their bands", just like their favorite football club (USA 1, Italy 1....NOOOO!). But in the case of Asia, their seems to be a type of anger leveled against their music by many prog fans that I find hard to understand. But it's just like anything I suppose. I mean, I'll defend contemporary figurative painting over abstract expressionism any day of the week. But that doesn't mean I don't like some abstract works.
But, "Here I Go Again" on another rant. Thank God for this forum, otherwise I'd be bored out of my mind today. It's too hot to go outside.  -------------
"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash, But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash." |
Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 20:14
I mean, unless you count someone like Francis Bacon, whose paintings certainly qualify as "paintings of people that can (sort of) be recognized", but that's stretching the definition a bit. Anyway, to get back on topic; I think AOR gets slammed from both sides of the spectrum, because the non-mainstream snobs such as myself find it too safe and common, whereas the hit-loving crowd probably find it a bit lacking in other aspects that are popular now, such as danceability and/or cute-girl singer or for not being aggressive enough (because post-Metallica's Black Album and Nirvana, that aspect really has been turned up quite a bit). And, you know, there was http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24300&PN=1 - quite a bit of good music in the 80's (scroll down for my personal list of a few of the 5-star albums produced during that decade). There's absolutely no need to blame that decade for its sins any more than other decades. -------------
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Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 20:15
| because i don't like them |
Posted By: necromancing777
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 20:36
I suppose I was thinking of Lucian Freud, Alex Katz and Odd Nerdrum (though Nerdrum gets no respect in most circles).
Aw, very true my friend. Your 80's music list is outstanding indeed. I think the reason I was attracted to 80's bands like Blondie, 10,000 Maniacs and Siouxsie & the Banshees in the place, was the 'cute-girl singer'. But these certainly aren't bands my "pop music" loving wife would ever listen too. -------------
"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash, But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash." |
Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 20:42
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If you go back in time to approx 1977.......Howe on the back of Going for the One.......Wetton still basking in the glow of KC's big 3 albums of 73/74.........and someone said, hey, Wetton & Howe & that great drummer & some other guy are getting together, you'd have thought, WOW!!! You'd have pawned your granny to hear them, surely they'd be so innovative & astounding!!!!
Ho hum..........
That's why people diss Asia - not for what they are/were - but for what they could have been......... ------------- "Every man over forty is a scoundrel." GBS 
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Posted By: necromancing777
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 20:51
Hmm...I never thought of it in those terms.  I suppose by the early 80's musical attitudes were changing as well, and prog began to fall largely from favor. I always figured maybe Asia thought, "better to have a hit, than not have one." But, indeed they left most of their super-chops behind, though each member individually had nothing left to prove at that point. As a collective though, perhaps another story...-------------
"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash, But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash." |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 21:02
I know!
Allmusic reviwers certainly have a sense of humor! Most Porcupine Tree albums are about 3 stars yet the Final Countdown is 4.5! Aww...bless their sweet, innocent hearts. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: akiko
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 23:17
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People hate Asia because the music was popular. Now here's the true story in dramatic form:
Mrs Wetton- John, dear, we need milk for the baby. Could you go get it?
Mr Wetton- Love, we really can't afford it right now.
The record company took all my royalties and we only have $14.00 in the account. Mrs Wetton- Those b******s! Whay are we going to do?
Mr Wetton- Well, Journey's producer called last week asking if I was interested in making loads of money, but I wanted to play music for art's sake like I did with Crimson and UK.
Mrs Wetton- You idiot! Art won't feed the kids or get me a nice house and car. Call that producer and bring home the bacon before I dump you for Mick Jagger. He may look like s**t but he's loaded.
Mr Wetton- Ok I'll give him a call.
Six moths later on the way home from touring with Asia...
Mr Wetton- James, don't forget to stop by the grocery store and buy milk for my son.
James- Sir, would you like to stop before or after we go to the jewelry store?
So there you have. After "Heat of the Moment" John Wetton has not had a need in his life. That's why people hate Asia.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 23:41
Umm ... wow ... okay...
Actually, it took a lot of guts to admit that.
A big part of it was the fact that it was this particular group of musicians making this music. I heard it it before I knew who the members were, and hated it. Imagine my horror when I found out. A friend thought he would impress me with his first prog purchase, and showed me their debut. I quickly set him straight. I would also much rather listen to Journey than this junk. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: mgallard
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 00:30
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Some people hate Asia because they're snobs, others because they think they know better than they do (they=Asia, real musicians, famous artists) how to make music (bull), others because anything that comes close to being popular (let alone get played on the radio!) is a sell-out, others because they think their expectations are going to magically make their "idols" make the music they supposedly like, some think simple compositions are despisable, etc, etc. the list goes on. When I heard Asia for the first time I actually didn't know who each artist was and have since then figured it out, but that didn't detract from the music and I've always enjoyed the album as a group, not as a heterogeneous mix of prog luminaries, I have their complete discography actually, but the debut is the one that gets most rotation, plus it reminds me of some good last years in school. I actually am happy that I have a wide taste in music, I can enjoy the latest Mars Volta, Asia, Men At Work, Blondie, Ryan Adams, Elvis Costello, Genesis, King Crimson, Nusrat Ali Fateh Khan, I don't know... Johnny Clegg, Midnight Oil, Crowded House, Tryo, Holst or Mahler or Mozart, Wynton Marsalis or Spyro Gyra, Mahavishnu and Miles Davis, Prince and The Pogues, SUN Project to Robert Miles to Tangerine Dream to Kraftwerk, etc. There's so much good music out there and my only criteria is I have to be able to listen to it at least 5 times without getting bored plus of course have some originality either in the music or the lyrics, preferably both. Lose all the pretenses, all the snobbishness, all the holier-than-thou attitudes and enjoy music, enjoy life. Greetings Mogens |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 00:39
I can aprecciate your point, and I like most of the artists you listed. My dislike of Asia is not because of snobbishness, or disappointment in my heroes. I just think the music is really weak. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: mgallard
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 00:47
And there's nothing wrong with that. Tastes vary as much as DNA. Mogens |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 00:50
No it didn't!
First of all, prog be damned those songs are catchy and fun. If proggers can't handle that then fine.
All I can say is that there is no prog equal to rolling up into the Taco Bell drive thru at 1:30 at night with "The Final Countdown" at full volume. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 00:52
Well of course... that's the proggiest thing a person could do with The Final Countdown...
'Cause here I go again on my own! ------------- 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 01:34
Well, the original version of "Here I Go Again" (from "Saints and Sinners") was much better than the one released on "1987". The same goes for the mighty "Crying in the Rain". Never been much a fan of "The Final Countdown", though in another thread I admitted to a weakness for some Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet songs...  Takes even more guts to do that in a prog forum, I suppose!As to Asia, of course I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed because of the potential for great prog things of at least two-thirds of the band. Closer to the mark, however, would be to say that I just don't like AOR-type music - those big choruses, catchy hooks and all. On the other hand, I quite like Yes's 90125, so I suppose it's not so much a matter of snobbisness in my case, as of individual taste. |
Posted By: rushfan6588
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 02:18
That guy is amazing....did alot of work on the soundtrack for THE TRUMAN SHOW...IMHO one of the best movie soundtracks
Anyhoo...i might be the only one, but occasionally i just love to listen to mindless music with a catchy sythesizer heavy chorus...i love prog as much as the next guy but sometimes i just wanna listen to Sussudio
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 05:31
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I agree on this site all their classic albums are all rated 3 stars. ------------- 
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 10:38
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You know how I know Asia's gay....'cause they even chose the band name as a ploy to sell records. They had dollar signs on their mind from the start. Contrivance....the equivalent of a prog rock boy band ('cept they were all grown up, you can tell by Palmer's hairy beer gut on MTV). Their singles were snappy, radio ready numbers that got in your head just like TV commerical jingles....a record selling machine. Man, Howe made more money from playing the guitar on MTV than from all the Yes tours combined. Why do I hate Asia? They represent another step forward in the corporatization of rock (what record company would release Close to the Edge if a young unknown band brought it to their doorstep)... ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 10:44
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 10:53
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:30
"You know how I know you're gay?" is a catch phrase from the movie '40 year old virigin', to which the original poster was referring because Asia gets dissed in it. nothing to be taken personally. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:36
Intruder said, about Asia, "the equivalent of a prog rock boy band"
I'm not sure whether this is something to be welcomed..........or strangled at birth......... ------------- "Every man over forty is a scoundrel." GBS
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:58
I don't think it was really such a thing. The idea of "boy" or "girl" bands belongs mostly to the '90s (although, in a way or another, they have always existed, even if with a different name). What I think is that it was a clever way to make money out of the famous names of the band members. The record company executives knew that lots of people would rush out to buy the album on the strength of the musicians and even of the album cover. I don't like Asia very much, but I would never put them on the same level as talent-free outfits such as modern-day boy bands. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:51
It was an ignorant mistake. We can't hold it against them.
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Posted By: Nanook
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:54
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Well, put me down for one that likes Asia. And for the record, I'm not gay either.
Asia always puts out good music, well played and sung. Call it what you will, but it's still good music. I'll go further than that, I like both incarnations of Asia, too, not just the first lineup. John Payne's voice is outstanding. Listen to the album Aura, excellent work. Their cover of 10CC's Ready to go home is phenomenal. Call me what you like, but Asia is an extremely talented musical group, one of many who are ignored by over 90% of the music buying public. |
Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:02
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:10
| Their debut album is good IMO. Commercial AOR with prog influences, but still good. Their second album is crappy, though. |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:11
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:23
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Always found it funny how Geoff Downes made Asia his baby and kept releasing albums...not to offend anybody, but how many copies do those things really sell? Who buys them?
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 16:16
That can be applied to most of the prog releases of the last 20 years.
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 16:22
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^Honestly, though. Isn't obscure mainstream music pretty much the definition of pointless?
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 17:32
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I like Asia's debut- always have done. The later Wetton albums are a bit of a letdown as they all sound like the debut, with only 'The Heat Goes On', 'The Smile Has Left Your Eyes', 'Prayin' For A Miracle' and particularly 'Days Like These' standing out. However their last album 'Silent Nation' saw a huge upturn- possibly the most musically interesting album I've heard of theirs. I'll have to check out the other Payne albums.
I don't think Asia could have won whatever they did- if they'd have done purist prog in the 80s, they'd have been slammed for being 'old hat' (just like I've seen many 'neo prog' bands called here), yet as they went mainstream they faced criticism for being too poppy and selling out. Catch-22, really. Personally I like many of their songs a lot and don't see the problem with their music that causes such an amount of loathing they seem to- in my mind, 80s Genesis is far more of a sell out than Asia in terms of sound. It just so happens that I like AOR bands like Journey, Boston, Foreigner, Styx et al as well as all manner of prog. I find Asia to be a neat middleground.
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 20:29
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Posted By: necromancing777
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:41
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Here's what Carl Palmer had to say about the Asia 25th anniversary tour:
In May 2006, Carl Palmer announced in an in-studio appearance on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic that the original lineup of Asia would tour the United States - the territory in which the group enjoyed its greatest success - in late summer of that year. Palmer stated the set list would include the entire 'Asia' album, and that band members would likely "throw in" selections from their respective earlier projects (specifically giving "Roundabout" as an example), to give younger fans a sense of where they had come from prior to forming the supergroup. The drummer, who was also promoting a new album of classic progressive rock material re-interpreted without vocals or keyboards, said that once the agreement had been reached, everyone was eager to move forward on the project in advance of the anniversary. Palmer modestly added that, should the tour be a success, a live DVD release could mark that anniversary in 2007. -------------
"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash, But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash." |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:44
Wait, Aren't you that guy who likes Asia? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: necromancing777
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:58
Doh! You got me...  -------------
"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash, But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash." |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 02:46
| Their first album is a pretty good pop album, that's all. Not prog, just prog players making a little coin. Come on, prog is not a great source of income. The masters know enough to "aim high and shoot low". As long as they come back to earth after making all that loot. |
Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 03:03
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Posted By: Big Ears
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 08:48
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Any group including Chris Slade should be good. Asia may get 'dissed' because John Payne was not a popular replacement for John Wetton. What happened to Wetton and Palmer's Quango project? Was Payne a member of ELO? (Where did they recruit him?) |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 12:01
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hello ASIA bashers, you might like to have a got at
this older thread here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7669&KW= my (lengthy) reply is twds. the end, although my general opinion has altered considerably after the announcement of the reunion and the disgraceful exit(ing) of john payne. enough said! ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Codis
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 15:55
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Hey, did you hear the original members of GTR are re-uniting? Just kidding (I hope!) Put me down in the "likes Asia" camp. The first album, at least. Didn't care to listen to the others. I considered going to the show in Redbank, NJ, but most good seats are already sold (!!) Maybe I'll scalp. -------------  Grammy Award Winning Jethro Tull!
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Posted By: CVoss
Date Posted: July 25 2006 at 10:42
I actually did blast "Heat of the Moment" once on my dorm computer, just for amusement, and for my roommates to potentially say "Asia? WTF, man?" Of course, this was months ago. Good times. ------------- "No one told you when to run You missed the starting gun" |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:19
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Why I don't like Asia -
The music is rubbish (apart from "Heat of the Moment", which tempted me into spending my pocket money on the first Asia album only to find it was the only good song on it). If the band was made up of no-hopers then it would be understandable but band members are obviously talented, creative individuals. Asia is a case of something being much less than the sum of its parts.
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Posted By: TOD KREMER
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 02:19
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I have tickets to see them in September at a small club. I am not expecting much prog but I am expecting a good time hearing some of my idols play together. I am glad they are touring. Yes, they are one of the biggest disappointments in prog history but they did have a sound, the place will be packed. I will, no doubt, spill my beer as I pound my fist in the air to the opening keyboard strains of "Heat Of The Moment". And I will make no apologies. ------------- Stand up to the blow that fate has struck upon you. Make the most of all you still have coming to you... |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 14:04
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 14:06
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Who shelled out the disses? ------------- |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 14:19
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The 80's were a bad decade for music in general. Asia just doesn't hold anyone's real interest, that's all.
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Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:40
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Too 80's sounding and to be honest considering the constituent parts, very disappointing output. ------------- Can you tell me where my country lies? |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:50
| Becasue People know them as 80s pop one hit wonder "Heat of the Moment." They are unaware of the fact that there are four progressive rock titians in the group, Their self-titled debut is actually a good album, perhaps their best. Silent Notation is utterly horrible. |
Posted By: Thyme Traveler
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 22:07
Not to mention "Scritti Politti."
Scritti Politti makes Asia sound like Gentle Giant. ------------- Fire up the flux capacitor ! We're taking this Delorean through all four dimensions. What is the future of prog ? Genesis reunion ? I'm not telling!That could upset the thyme/space continuum. |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 22:07
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cause they suck
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: July 29 2006 at 01:07
Nice try, but sadly uninformed. -------------
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Posted By: mgallard
Date Posted: July 29 2006 at 12:52
Very enlightened comments (not!)  Asia are good, first record marks an epoch for me, plus was the first LP I ever bought, the next album was so-so, I have the whole collection and enjoy them from time to time, skip a song here and there. Some people just take a posture and never change (I'll leave that for when I am 120 years old). This reminds me of the less-than-informed individual that said somewhere here on PA that Kansas as AOR... just because he heard "Dust in the Wind" somewhere sometime on the radio doesn't make "Point of Know Return" AOR!! Just plain stupid.Mogens |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 03 2006 at 02:11
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: August 03 2006 at 04:58
If you come to Prog as an escape from the overused and all-pervasive conventions of regular Rock, there is pretty much no way you could like Kansas other than as a curio that weds some minor innovation and exploration to tradition, conservatism and retrogressive songwriting. -------------
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 03 2006 at 07:10
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If we had to leave only the pure prog bands in the archives there would hardly be any members.
Thank God for bands like Kansas!!
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