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UnknownFlow
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Topic: Best nation at doing Prog Rock Posted: April 15 2006 at 16:50 |
No racism allowed... For me it's gotta be Britain, because unless I'm wrong they did practically invent Prog Rock...
Also, I only did places that i knew had Prog Rock bands, do mention if
there are any more major ones ( plus I'm sure everywhere has their fair
share of Prog Rock bands).
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 16:54 |
Have you ever heard of The Netherlands? Focus (!), Supersister, Kayak,
Earth and Fire, Ayreon, Gathering, Finch, Alquin, Ekseption ......
Still voting for Britain of course. Even if we leave out the prog, and focus on rock, Britain stands out for me.
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Blog this:
http://artrock2006.blogspot.com
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Jimbo
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:00 |
New Zealand, Romania, and Portugal over Netherlands, Finland, Belgium etc...
I'm torn between Britain and Canada at the moment. Since Britain is
going to get most of the votes naturally, I'll vote for Canada!!!
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Dirk
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:04 |
Averaged over 35 years it'll be Britain and the poll is rather useless. At the moment it's clearly Sweden for me with at least 3 good bands active at the moment. So i voted Sweden.
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The Ryan
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:05 |
The United States is most consistent. While the country may not be the best in one particular genre, the country has stood firm to doing every subgenre in progressive rock there is. Except for that Italian stuff, of course. If you want to pick a certain decade and ask which country is the best, for the 1960's/70's I'd most definitely go with Britain. And for today I'd probably vote Sweden. But these two countries are inconsistent.
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:09 |
The Ryan wrote:
The United States is most consistent. While the country may not be the best in one particular genre, the country has stood firm to doing every subgenre in progressive rock there is. Except for that Italian stuff, of course. If you want to pick a certain decade and ask which country is the best, for the 1960's/70's I'd most definitely go with Britain. And for today I'd probably vote Sweden. But these two countries are inconsistent. |
I consider this a joke ( a bad joke, actually)
Gb off, I vote for Italy, but Germany it's a lovely second option. But Britannia is THE home of great rock (including prog rock, of course). Amercinans created, they pushed to the limits.
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BaldJean
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:12 |
Germany. Krautrock was the most experimental music of all; only some
RIO can perhaps rival it. and nothing is as trippy as Krautrock
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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The Ryan
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:24 |
moodyxadi wrote:
The Ryan wrote:
The United States is most consistent. While the country may not be the best in one particular genre, the country has stood firm to doing every subgenre in progressive rock there is. Except for that Italian stuff, of course. If you want to pick a certain decade and ask which country is the best, for the 1960's/70's I'd most definitely go with Britain. And for today I'd probably vote Sweden. But these two countries are inconsistent. |
I consider this a joke ( a bad joke, actually)
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I consider this your ignorance's fault to what the United States has offered musically.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:29 |
I agree with BaldJean, Germany probably made the most music that could be considered Prog, with England, Italy and France trailing.
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UnknownFlow
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:03 |
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
Have you ever heard of The Netherlands? Focus (!), Supersister, Kayak,
Earth and Fire, Ayreon, Gathering, Finch, Alquin, Ekseption ......
Still voting for Britain of course. Even if we leave out the prog, and focus on rock, Britain stands out for me.
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Good point! That was very stupid of me! Focus are one of my favourite bands!
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Dirk
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:13 |
The Ryan wrote:
The United States is most consistent. While the country may not be the best in one particular genre, the country has stood firm to doing every subgenre in progressive rock there is. Except for that Italian stuff, of course. If you want to pick a certain decade and ask which country is the best, for the 1960's/70's I'd most definitely go with Britain. And for today I'd probably vote Sweden. But these two countries are inconsistent. |
I'm a bit puzzled by this statement Ryan. Kansas was a good band in the 70's. At the moment there are a lot of popular prog bands from US: Spock's Beard, Echolyn, Dream theater, Dredge,Glass Hammer,TMV to name a few(there are more). I haven't heard TMV yet but i like all the others in the order that i've listed them. A vote for US at the moment would certainly not be ridiculous. But in the 80's and 90's the situation was rather dismal wasn't it? Do you have some examples from these decades?
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jonathan_0311
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:40 |
I guess I'll go with Sweden.
Pain Of Salvation, Opeth, Therion, Andromeda and Evergrey is a pretty good bunch.
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:43 |
something in the water, all that talent coming from Britain.
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:21 |
i like a ton of british band, but there are also a whooole bunch that i dont like at all.
so i say germany
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The Ryan
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:23 |
Dirk wrote:
The Ryan wrote:
The United States is most consistent. While the country may not be the best in one particular genre, the country has stood firm to doing every subgenre in progressive rock there is. Except for that Italian stuff, of course. If you want to pick a certain decade and ask which country is the best, for the 1960's/70's I'd most definitely go with Britain. And for today I'd probably vote Sweden. But these two countries are inconsistent. |
I'm a bit puzzled by this statement Ryan. Kansas was a good band in the 70's. At the moment there are a lot of popular prog bands from US: Spock's Beard, Echolyn, Dream theater, Dredge,Glass Hammer,TMV to name a few(there are more). I haven't heard TMV yet but i like all the others in the order that i've listed them. A vote for US at the moment would certainly not be ridiculous.
But in the 80's and 90's the situation was rather dismal wasn't it? Do you have some examples from these decades?
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The 80's is a decade I try to stay away from alltogether when it comes to rock (that includes prog). But if you check where prog metal began, it's America. Queensryche and Fates Warning began in the 80's. Personally I'm not really into that type of stuff, but for those who enjoy prog metal I don't know how they could dismiss America. Dream Theater had their debut in 89' as well, who the typical prog-metal band these days rips off of. The 90's includes a few of the bands you mentioned already, most notably Spock's Beard and Echolyn, Echolyn continues even today to create original music.
Other 80's/90's groups: Salem Hill, Symphony X, Kevin Gilbert (The man who was up to auditioning for Genesis), Tool, Frank Zappa in the 80's, and Shadow Gallery. These just came to me off the top of my head, there's much much more to be listened to, especially in the 00's but that's another story.
I hate the 80's so much ![](smileys/smiley19.gif)
Oh yeah, one last thing. The United States gave the world jazz. Where do you think Jazz/Fusion came from? It's just a bunch of British interpretations (they are excellent no doubt), but the sound is/was impossible to create without the southern/midwestern American culture through the 1900's. That may not be "best bands", but the idea is significant nevertheless.
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:36 |
^Yes you're right I forgot Zappa in the 80's and i hadn't realized that bands like Salem Hill and Dream theater have been active for so long already. Zappa: You are what you is, what a witty album that is ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) great sense of humor this guy.
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:37 |
the French made the best Progressive Fusion in the 70-80's by a long shot, not the English Canterbury scene!
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The Ryan
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:40 |
DallasBryan wrote:
the French made the best Progressive Fusion in the 70-80's by a long shot, not the English Canterbury scene!![](smileys/smiley5.gif) |
Made possible by the United States.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:46 |
Obviously, Britain.
Italy is almost equal.
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 20:06 |
Sweden and the US
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