Best nation at doing Prog Rock
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Topic: Best nation at doing Prog Rock
Posted By: UnknownFlow
Subject: Best nation at doing Prog Rock
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 16:50
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No racism allowed... For me it's gotta be Britain, because unless I'm wrong they did practically invent Prog Rock... Also, I only did places that i knew had Prog Rock bands, do mention if there are any more major ones ( plus I'm sure everywhere has their fair share of Prog Rock bands). |
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 16:54
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Have you ever heard of The Netherlands? Focus (!), Supersister, Kayak,
Earth and Fire, Ayreon, Gathering, Finch, Alquin, Ekseption ...... Still voting for Britain of course. Even if we leave out the prog, and focus on rock, Britain stands out for me. ------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:00
New Zealand, Romania, and Portugal over Netherlands, Finland, Belgium etc... I'm torn between Britain and Canada at the moment. Since Britain is going to get most of the votes naturally, I'll vote for Canada!!!  ------------- 
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:04
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Averaged over 35 years it'll be Britain and the poll is rather useless. At the moment it's clearly Sweden for me with at least 3 good bands active at the moment. So i voted Sweden. |
Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:05
| The United States is most consistent. While the country may not be the best in one particular genre, the country has stood firm to doing every subgenre in progressive rock there is. Except for that Italian stuff, of course. If you want to pick a certain decade and ask which country is the best, for the 1960's/70's I'd most definitely go with Britain. And for today I'd probably vote Sweden. But these two countries are inconsistent. |
Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:09
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I consider this a joke ( a bad joke, actually) Gb off, I vote for Italy, but Germany it's a lovely second option. But Britannia is THE home of great rock (including prog rock, of course). Amercinans created, they pushed to the limits. |
The Ryan wrote:Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:12
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Germany. Krautrock was the most experimental music of all; only some
RIO can perhaps rival it. and nothing is as trippy as Krautrock
-------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:24
I consider this your ignorance's fault to what the United States has offered musically. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 17:29
| I agree with BaldJean, Germany probably made the most music that could be considered Prog, with England, Italy and France trailing. |
Posted By: UnknownFlow
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:03
Good point! That was very stupid of me! Focus are one of my favourite bands! |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:13
I'm a bit puzzled by this statement Ryan. Kansas was a good band in the 70's. At the moment there are a lot of popular prog bands from US: Spock's Beard, Echolyn, Dream theater, Dredge,Glass Hammer,TMV to name a few(there are more). I haven't heard TMV yet but i like all the others in the order that i've listed them. A vote for US at the moment would certainly not be ridiculous. But in the 80's and 90's the situation was rather dismal wasn't it? Do you have some examples from these decades? |
Posted By: jonathan_0311
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:40
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I guess I'll go with Sweden. Pain Of Salvation, Opeth, Therion, Andromeda and Evergrey is a pretty good bunch. |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 18:43
| something in the water, all that talent coming from Britain. |
Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:21
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i like a ton of british band, but there are also a whooole bunch that i dont like at all.
so i say germany |
Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:23
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The 80's is a decade I try to stay away from alltogether when it comes to rock (that includes prog). But if you check where prog metal began, it's America. Queensryche and Fates Warning began in the 80's. Personally I'm not really into that type of stuff, but for those who enjoy prog metal I don't know how they could dismiss America. Dream Theater had their debut in 89' as well, who the typical prog-metal band these days rips off of. The 90's includes a few of the bands you mentioned already, most notably Spock's Beard and Echolyn, Echolyn continues even today to create original music. Other 80's/90's groups: Salem Hill, Symphony X, Kevin Gilbert (The man who was up to auditioning for Genesis), Tool, Frank Zappa in the 80's, and Shadow Gallery. These just came to me off the top of my head, there's much much more to be listened to, especially in the 00's but that's another story. I hate the 80's so much Oh yeah, one last thing. The United States gave the world jazz. Where do you think Jazz/Fusion came from? It's just a bunch of British interpretations (they are excellent no doubt), but the sound is/was impossible to create without the southern/midwestern American culture through the 1900's. That may not be "best bands", but the idea is significant nevertheless. |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:36
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^Yes you're right I forgot Zappa in the 80's and i hadn't realized that bands like Salem Hill and Dream theater have been active for so long already. Zappa: You are what you is, what a witty album that is  great sense of humor this guy. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:37
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the French made the best Progressive Fusion in the 70-80's by a long shot, not the English Canterbury scene!
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Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:40
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Made possible by the United States. |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 19:46
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Obviously, Britain. Italy is almost equal. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 20:06
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Sweden and the US ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: Zoso
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 22:37
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Britain.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 22:52
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Britain. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 22:56
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I'm torn between Britain, England and the UK.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 22:57
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Germany for consistently great music
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: moonmadness
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 23:01
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Britain. -------------  
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: April 16 2006 at 00:28
Word. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: April 16 2006 at 01:02
I'll second that. ------------- Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 16 2006 at 04:13
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1.Britain 2.Italy/Sweden - almost equally 
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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: April 16 2006 at 09:22
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I agree |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 16 2006 at 10:26
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Countries that contributed the most to the development of progressive music, IMHO:
My personal taste though:
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 16 2006 at 10:31
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Romania in the poll ?!! that's a nice joke... England has my vote...second to England is Jamaica ------------- 
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 08:10
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Philippines Yeah, i know.... not in wildest dreams......
The Brits i think... ------------- 
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 08:15
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Currently the best for me is Italy!!!!
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 09:09
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and why Australia is now in second place??
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 12:30
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Brits- Sweds- Americans ------------- |
Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 12:38
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Sorry but my vote goes to Magna Britannia, we do/done the best prog becuase like heavy rock and heavy metal we invented it! I must say though that the USA comes a very close second as they do do the better prog-metal bands (with the exception of Threshold who will always top my prog-metal poll simply becuase they are English!). But we cannot forget the Netherlands, and the scandanvian nations when ti comes to prog-rock an prog-metal as well. ------------- Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17 |
Posted By: Vi0LaToR
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 12:50
| Britain... yesterday, today and tomorrow |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 13:02
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England, no doubt about it.
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Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 13:16
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Definitely Britain!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 13:23
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Britain For Me.
The US Sucks in every kind of Music. |
Posted By: proglil49
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:12
I agree that Britain is a great nation for prog rock but US dosen't sucks in every king of music, see Dream Theater. ------------- I want to be an astronaut |
Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:31
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For me, its gotta be... ICELAND!!!!!  Well, if were counting more than 1 band, North America. I'm refuring to Modern prog here. If I had to vote for the 60/70s, Britain. |
Posted By: watch_maker
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 05:52
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Romania of course ------------- lalala |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 14:14
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As much as i think we do it best,i love Italian Prog, i think sometimes it can match the British!! PFM,Banco etc ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 17:44
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hmmm... more famous - England better..... Italy so many great albums put out by groups that never got a chance to put out substandard albums before they broke up... faded away... or whatever happened to so many groups there. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 07:48
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just to make a comment on the question...
Is Britain a nation? I don't think so...
As far as I know there are three nationalities on the island
English, Scots and Welsh... of course a Brit knows more about this
- so in your question probably Britain should be replaced by England I guess - no offence
then I would say England
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:39
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Britain > Italy > US > Germany, for me. ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:54
Duhhhhhhh... okay.
  You're very young, aren't you? Completely unaware of musical history? Don't get out much?
 The US invented: rock, blues, country and jazz, plus soul, motown, funk, bluegrass, rap, hip hop, disco, etc, etc! (Perhaps you've heard of some of them?)
 Every type of music is available there, from the most commercial crap, to the hardest-hitting folk, to the coolest jazz, to the most avant-garde, weird, experimental music. It has a huge music scene, with something for all tastes. They have crap bands, average bands, good bands and great bands. They even have some very good prog bands, these days.  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:59
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No offence, but who in the heck is voting for Australia -- extreme nationalists? (It's a great country, musically, and otherwise, but it's not known for prog! Even Aussies here have said as much!  )------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:59
Errrr... What about blues music? And that lead into rock & roll - the U.S. is the home of both (and without rock & roll, and therefore blues, you wouldn't even have prog).
Almost all of the classic British proggers grew up as fans of American blues and r&b. And rock & roll!! I mean, the U.S. - Elvis, Little Richard, Bill Haley... you don't think the proggers were digging on that stuff when they were discovering rock music as kids?
Britain was the best for prog (late 60s into the 70s) but it all stems from American blues and rock & roll. ------------- jc |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:03
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And Russia? WTF?
Oh yeah, very influential on the prog scene, I'm sure.... This is not a test of patriotic fervor, folks! ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:08
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I agree with Peter... USA is a kind of summary of all Western Civilization, with the great, the good, the average, the bad and the ugly.
But it's also correct to say that many genres created there had great development in other parts of the world, like rock.
But in the other hand, many genres created outside USA got a great development there, like Brazilian bossa nova.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 15:07
Not one person has mentioned an Australian band in this thread. And I can't name an Aussie prog band. So someone has sabotaged this poll! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 15:32
Yes and all that muisc Sucks. Progreesive Rock Is The GREATEST and only from Britain.
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Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 15:43
Progreesive rock? Is that like country weestern? ------------- jc |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 15:48
Ah -- I see. You're either a total moron, or just another hateful little troll then.
Actually, I think it's equal parts from Column A, and Column B.... ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 16:30
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Xenoxen -- a play on "xenophobia" -- "an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers"
Know yer troll, folks! ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: DrWizard
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 21:13
| Gotta be Britain |