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Tommy 
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 22:15 |
If you could pick an album that could be re-recorded by original band members using today's state of the art technology which would you choose? Do you think an album could be improved by doing so?
Personally I would choose ELP's debut & Foxtrot! Great albums but the production lets them down and they sound very dated now IMO!
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 22:31 |
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i think the production sucks on that
they don't capture enough of the violin or percussion
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Quadrophenia
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 22:40 |
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VdGG - Pawn Hearts
Genesis - Nursery Cryme
Mahavishnu - The Inner Mounting Flame
Genesis - Trespass
That's all I can think of for now, although I know there's a lot more.
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 23:03 |
Shadow Gallery's first album should really be shined up, IMO!
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Oxygen Waster
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 23:18 |
Good Question ............I've often thought of that myself.As much as I love and value the sound of the older music I would love to hear an older album re-done with todays recording techniques.
Lizard-Crimso I think would be really ineresting,it would work well,its has quite a bizzare feeling to it and would sound great with todays techniques,In The Court would be nice too.
All the Synth in ELP would sound Mind Blowing if re-done today.
I like it all the way it is but hey, lets face it would be cool.
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Oxygen Waster
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 23:20 |
 Bj-1 wrote:
Shadow Gallery's first album should really be shined up, IMO!
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I think that would be Great!!!
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Empathy
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 23:34 |
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Jethro Tull's Aqualung was mastered at a total whisper's volume for some reason; was just listening to it this morning. I'd like to hear it cleaned up.
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Ultaigh
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 00:09 |
Empathy wrote:
Jethro Tull's Aqualung was mastered at a total whisper's
volume for some reason; was just listening to it this morning. I'd like
to hear it cleaned up.
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I know, for some reason they didn't really "remaster" that album
atleast not to the quality of Thick as a Brick or Songs from the Wood.
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 00:32 |
I'd say Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite... the production there sucks
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Paco Fox
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 03:22 |
There seems to be an agreement in many fronts regarding Genesis Foxtrot and Nursery Crime, although the worst prog production ever for a major band may be in Tresspass.
Not a fault in technology, but I'l love to listen to re-recodings of synth orchestral albums with a proper orchestra: The whole Enid catalogue, for instance. And The Princess Bride soundtrack, by the way.
And then there's the Strawbs' 'Deja Fou'. Horrid production. And it's from 2005...
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 03:30 |
Tales from the Lush Attic - IQ
More Grains of Sand - Clepsydra
Shattered Image - La Tulipe Noire
They're not too ANCIENT  ,but the soundproducing sucks
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 03:49 |
King crimson's Earthbond.
It's my favorite live album, but unfortunately the recording was poorely done.
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SaintVitus
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 04:06 |
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ELP's re-recording of Pictures at an Exhibition (i think it's from
1993) shows how much you can improve an old record by using state of
the art technology....IMO the new recording is so much better.
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Sacred 22
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 04:13 |
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Hmmmm, let me see now. Oh ya, I would really like to see Yes redo "Topographic Oceans". I think the music has all kinds of potential and after hearing The Ritual live on their latest live DVD's it's clear that the music is timeless. I think an injection of some new ideas coupled with the advancements in recording techniques would greatly enhance the masterpiece that is Topographic Oceans.
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 04:45 |
I think 'Ritual' sounded incredible in the studio- the version on 'Songs From The Tsongas', excellent though it is, sounds a little bit TOO polished and lacks the thrill of the original, or even the live versions from the 70s- I saw a clip of them playing it live with a full light show combined with the astonishing primal thrill near the end, and it looked fantastic.
I don't, as a rule, believe in re-recorded versions of anything- what's done is done, and any attempt to 'better' an original will always fail to my ears- certainly in the keyboard department; many of today's instruments are a bit too slick sounding.
Glad someone agrees about the Aqualung 'remaster'- to me, it sounds by far the weakest of all the Tull CDs I own, being flat, non powerful and lacking depth. Needs an overhaul, imo.
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 04:52 |
My Pick would be Yezda Urfa's "Sacred Baboon" Such a masterpiece and yet so depressingly underproduced....
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 05:09 |
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High Tide's "Sea Shanties" could need a remastering; the violin is sometimes very difficult to hear. Someone mentioned "Pawn Hearts"; this one was remastered (as were all other VdGG albums) and sounds very different (and better) now.
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PROGMAN
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 05:18 |
From Genesis to Revelation - sound quality and production let's it down.
Stereo needs resorting, instruments need to be louder and arrangments need more organising.
A Hammond would have been a treat, not that cheap organ they used.
it was a early concept effort, but the production was a let down for them.
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 05:24 |
I would agree that the early Genesis albums have mostly bad production, but I dont think it's an issue of analog vs digital. A better producer would have made a better job of those albums with the technology available at the time. Look at the massive improvemtns David Henschell bought to the bands sound.
I would like to see the following albums re-recorded, with whatever technique...
Nursery Cryme - Genesis
Foxtrot - Genesis
TFTO - Yes
Pawn Hearts - VDGG
In the wake of Posseidon - KC
A farewell to Kings - Rush
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PROGMAN
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 05:28 |
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I feel sorry sorry for ex-Genesis drummer John Silver, they made his drumming sound so amateur, and that organ Tony Banks used on FGTR tut, tut, anyway Peter sounds great and Mike's bass is excellent, all were great but the sound production didn't give em justice.
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