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Vibrationbaby 
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 09:55 |
In the 1950's jazz drumming legends Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa engaged in a legendary drum battle which was fortunately captured on tape ( I have a vinyl pressing of the recording ). Adrum battle, for those of you not familiar is basically when the two solo players are trying to outdo one another in succesive turns. It is all in good fun and the real winner is the audience! What prog artists would you like to see going at it, here is what I would like to see:
Neil Peart vs. Bill Bruford (Drums)
Geddy Lee vs. Jeff Berlin (Bass)
Steve Morse vs. John McLaughlin (Electric Guitar)
Kieth Emerson vs. Rick Wakeman (Keyboards)
John Lawton vs. Any takers
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 11:44 |
I would like to see anyone attempt to outdo Steve Vai on guitar - they wouldn't/couldn't, of course, but the entertainment value would be priceless!
An attempt at this is captured on tape too - the soundtrack to the film "Crossroads" (not the Britney Spears version, before you use this thread as an excuse... ).
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 11:56 |
Uhh. I think I'd prefer:
David Gilmour vs. (ahh even after Certs statement above, there is no one who can verse David Gilmour) 
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 12:01 |
I think you caught me out there, TF - of course, Vai isn't noted for his long, lingering sustained notes and simple tunes...
I'd put Andy Latimer and Steve Rothery up against Gilmour - not because I think they'd beat him, but to have those three entering into a duel of who can play the most spine-tingling melodic solo would be amazing!
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 12:34 |
 Vibrationbaby wrote:
In the 1950's jazz drumming legends Buddy
Rich and Gene Krupa engaged in a legendary drum battle which was
fortunately captured on tape ( I have a vinyl pressing of the recording
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Geddy Lee vs. Jeff Berlin (Bass)
Steve Morse vs. John McLaughlin (Electric Guitar) |
Thanks for the laugh, added to my delight in seeing my neighbour just
win the New York ladies marathon on TV - and she had a proper fight on
her hands to win. I think the former one of each pair would be punching
well outside their weight - bantamweight v super heavyweight
respectively. At least Krupa and Rich were directly comparable
musically.
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 13:04 |
Andy Latimer is certainly Gilmour's equal. Anybody who listens to Camel knows this.
'Sides...I'd put any up of the "wank" guitar "gods" up against McLaughlin & DiMeola. DiMeola's speed's a tool, not a crutch to fall back on.
| I'd put Andy Latimer and Steve Rothery up against Gilmour - not because I think they'd beat him, but to have those three entering into a duel of who can play the most spine-tingling melodic solo would be amazing! |
Ditto.
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 13:14 |
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in the keyboard bout, my money is on wakeman
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 13:16 |
Dick Heath wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
In the 1950's jazz drumming legends Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa engaged in a legendary drum battle which was fortunately captured on tape ( I have a vinyl pressing of the recording ).
Geddy Lee vs. Jeff Berlin (Bass)
Steve Morse vs. John McLaughlin (Electric Guitar)
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Thanks for the laugh, added to my delight in seeing my neighbour just win the New York ladies marathon on TV - and she had a proper fight on her hands to win. I think the former one of each pair would be punching well outside their weight - bantamweight v super heavyweight respectively. At least Krupa and Rich were directly comparable musically.
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Methinks thou dost understimate Mr Lee, Mr Heath. Jeff is an acknowledged "great" of the bass guitar but for musicians in North America, Geddy has been the most influencial bassist of the last 25 years and I am not talking fan base either. I remember some of the Guitar Player Magazine letters discussing if he was the best rock bassist of all time (!) Maybe Larry Holmes against Ali would be a better comparison for their match up.
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 16:44 |
Peter Gabriel v Fish (how many silly costumes can they change into)
Vangelis v Clive Nolan (pie eating contest)
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 17:17 |
frenchie wrote:
in the keyboard bout, my money is on wakeman |
Hardly! but that gave me a good laugh....
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 17:36 |
threefates wrote:
frenchie wrote:
in the keyboard bout, my money is on wakeman |
Hardly! but that gave me a good laugh....
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Rick is the kind of guy who can lend himself to any style with ease.However you just gotta love the sounds that Emerson gets out of his keyboards.Of the two I prefer Rick's Yes work to ELP's catalogue but somehow I just favour Emerson.
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 17:50 |
Reed Lover wrote:
threefates wrote:
frenchie wrote:
in the keyboard bout, my money is on wakeman |
Hardly! but that gave me a good laugh....
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Rick is the kind of guy who can lend himself to any style with ease.However you just gotta love the sounds that Emerson gets out of his keyboards.Of the two I prefer Rick's Yes work to ELP's catalogue but somehow I just favour Emerson. |
I think I would have to go with Emerson because the man is nuts! Wakeman is more disciplined and I don't think he could keep up with Keith's madness.
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 17:51 |
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I've seen them both play live very recently.. and it was the same as always... There's just something a little more stiff about Rick's playing... I miss the days tho of Keith traveling with a grand piano on stage. His piano work has always been the most incredible thing to watch....
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 18:58 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Methinks thou dost understimate Mr Lee, Mr
Heath. Jeff is an acknowledged "great" of the bass guitar but for
musicians in North America, Geddy has been the most influencial bassist
of the last 25 years and I am not talking fan base either. |
Oh dear sitting here in the UK, I thought Jaco Pastorius was the boss of the bass wrt that influence.
Obviously Jeff Berlin has been involved in a number of rock
albums (and with Neil Peart), but how's is Geddy Lee's jazz
electric bass playing?
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 19:12 |
Hmm, another really good bassist is Wetton methinks. I wonder how good he is right now, since on Starless and Larks he was REALLY fast now and then. And his improvisation is way above my head, just can';t put my finger on it.
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Epic.
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 20:48 |
JrKASperov wrote:
Hmm, another really good bassist is Wetton methinks. I wonder how good he is right now, since on Starless and Larks he was REALLY fast now and then. And his improvisation is way above my head, just can';t put my finger on it. |
yeah. Wetton's bass work with Crimson certainly freaked me out especially live. Check ou The 4 CD set The Great Deciever or USA. Wicked interaction between Wetton and Bruford on the kit.
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Posted: November 08 2004 at 14:44 |
Dick Heath wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Methinks thou dost understimate Mr Lee, Mr Heath. Jeff is an acknowledged "great" of the bass guitar but for musicians in North America, Geddy has been the most influencial bassist of the last 25 years and I am not talking fan base either.
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Oh dear sitting here in the UK, I thought Jaco Pastorius was the boss of the bass wrt that influence.
Obviously Jeff Berlin has been involved in a number of rock albums (and with Neil Peart), but how's is Geddy Lee's jazz electric bass playing?
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Sorry to be vague Dick,
I was referring to rock bass playing as this is a progressive rock site.
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Posted: November 08 2004 at 15:33 |
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I think Chris Squire could give Geddy Lee a good fight, both are incredible bass players and their originality is unique.
In the drums section I'd prefer seeing Mike Giles battling it
out with Neil. Both have their own style, but I think Giles's playing
style is "wilder" (in a way) than Bruford's more "melodic" (uh?
:/) drums.
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Posted: November 08 2004 at 19:19 |
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I'd like to see a guitar battle between:
Petrucci and Lifeson
Myung and Lee
and Portnoy and Peart.
I'd bet on Lee and Peart from Rush, and Petrucci from Dream Theater.
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Posted: November 08 2004 at 21:10 |
Apples and Oranges battling to the death......
Would make a great smoothie! 
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