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    Posted: November 05 2004 at 09:38

 For an english report im considering writing about Females and Progressive Rock music.

I was thinking along the lines of discussing female listeners/fans , there are some of us out there and female prog musicians.

 I would love to hear my fellow prog lovers views on  this matter.

              Jen.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 10:19

So Jen... maybe you should read this thread I started months ago here... could be helpful

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1239&a mp;PN=4

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 10:47

The theme of the 2nd-to-last issue of Progression was Women In Prog. See if you can score a copy by way of a friend, somehow (don't sub or order from the site, it'll take you half a year to get it).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 11:13

It's a great idea.

The only female proggers that  know of are Tracey Hitchings of Landmarq and Christina Booth of Magenta. Are there any others?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 11:19

There are so few women who make prog, but even fewer, it seems who even like it. Thankfully we have ShrinkingViolet & threefates.

My girlfriend is a life long Rush fan, and likes some Yes and Genesis too, so I haven't done too badly.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 11:21
Not forgetting PETRA.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 11:44

Is anyone surprised I have an opinion on the matter?

You'd think that with such an overwhelmingly male fanbase, the women who did get into prog would be "tomboys" or exhibit some traditionally masculine personality characteristics...but in my experience, it's been almost the opposite. The female prog fans I've known have been unquestionably feminine. Of course, I've only known maybe 3 or 4, so it's not much of a sample to draw any real conclusions.

It's always dangerous to generalize, but prog tends to appeal to a specific sort of mentality...a curious blend of the creative and analytic, people who value artistic expression but also discipline and precision. That kind of outlook seems to happen more often in men than women, but whether it's a result of any hard-wired biological tendency or cultural/ social source (nature vs. nurture) is impossible to say.

There also seems to be some correlation between fans of prog, science fiction, and Monty Python...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 11:55

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Not forgetting PETRA.

GREAT topic... don't forget the lovely Renate Knaup from the psychedelic & cult Amon Duul II...her incantatory voice is really delicious.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 11:56
Well stupid people do not enjoy prog and there´s alot of these people around. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 12:20

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Not forgetting PETRA.

Oh yes don't forget me! *puts hand up*

I find that there are not many women interested in any genre of music not just prog.  

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 13:03
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

It's a great idea.

The only female proggers that  know of are Tracey Hitchings of Landmarq and Christina Booth of Magenta. Are there any others?

 

 

Jane Relf then Annie Haslam of Renaissance, vocalist of Minimum Vital, Carol Grimes of Delivery, Gayle Moran variously of Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return To Forever, Annette Peacock on Bruford's Feels Good To Me. Do you count Julie Dyble and then Sandy Denny of Fairport Convention? Julie Tippetts (ne Driscoll). Anna Sofi Dahlberg of Anekdoten.  But the point is taken there are very few female musicians involved in past and present prog bands - I bet there are more violinists in prog then women. There too is some assumption prog rock has considerably more male followers than female.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 13:44
I've always enjoyed attending prog concerts cause there's never a line for the women's room...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 13:44
But beware there´s always some Clown lurking in the shadows even in there. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 13:55

Most women I know will listen to music on their car radio cassette (Radio 2 or wharever) but very rarely buy stuff.

My wife listens to a broad base of pop music-Rush thru to Suzanne Vega &Sheryl Crow thru Blue (Cry) and Westlife.

At the recent Rush concert it was at least 85% male,my wife being an honourable exception.

I cant see any reason why many women seem to lose interest in music once they leave their teens. One of lifes great 2 great mysteries-the other is why they lose interest in sex after marriage.LOL

 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 14:00
Well work still sucks after 10 years 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 14:10
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

It's a great idea.

The only female proggers that  know of are Tracey Hitchings of Landmarq and Christina Booth of Magenta. Are there any others?

Jane Relf then Annie Haslam of Renaissance, vocalist of Minimum Vital, Carol Grimes of Delivery, Gayle Moran variously of Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return To Forever, Annette Peacock on Bruford's Feels Good To Me. Do you count Julie Dyble and then Sandy Denny of Fairport Convention? Julie Tippetts (ne Driscoll). Anna Sofi Dahlberg of Anekdoten.  But the point is taken there are very few female musicians involved in past and present prog bands - I bet there are more violinists in prog then women. There too is some assumption prog rock has considerably more male followers than female.

Don't forget Sonja Kristina of Curved Air of course and Mostly Autumn's Heather Findlay.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 14:11

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Well work still sucks after 10 years 

Male prostitution is illegal in the UKEmbarrassed

 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 14:15
REED is not illegal in Sweden ...................... Darn  But we´ll knock his teeth out for free anyway 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 14:16
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

Is anyone surprised I have an opinion on the matter?

You'd think that with such an overwhelmingly male fanbase, the women who did get into prog would be "tomboys" or exhibit some traditionally masculine personality characteristics...but in my experience, it's been almost the opposite. The female prog fans I've known have been unquestionably feminine. Of course, I've only known maybe 3 or 4, so it's not much of a sample to draw any real conclusions.

It's always dangerous to generalize, but prog tends to appeal to a specific sort of mentality...a curious blend of the creative and analytic, people who value artistic expression but also discipline and precision. That kind of outlook seems to happen more often in men than women, but whether it's a result of any hard-wired biological tendency or cultural/ social source (nature vs. nurture) is impossible to say.

There also seems to be some correlation between fans of prog, science fiction, and Monty Python...

creative and analytical....wow! I just thought we were a bunch of nerds...cool! I'm more creative the anyone else(outside of prog archives) I am special!! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2004 at 18:52
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

It's a great idea.

The only female proggers that  know of are Tracey Hitchings of Landmarq and Christina Booth of Magenta. Are there any others?

 

 

Jane Relf then Annie Haslam of Renaissance, vocalist of Minimum Vital, Carol Grimes of Delivery, Gayle Moran variously of Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return To Forever, Annette Peacock on Bruford's Feels Good To Me. Do you count Julie Dyble and then Sandy Denny of Fairport Convention? Julie Tippetts (ne Driscoll). Anna Sofi Dahlberg of Anekdoten.  But the point is taken there are very few female musicians involved in past and present prog bands - I bet there are more violinists in prog then women. There too is some assumption prog rock has considerably more male followers than female.

Danishta Rivero (Aghora)

Emilia Derkowska (Quidam)

Vanessa Falabella & Paula Santoro (Sagrado coraçao da terra)

The woman who used to sing in Curved Air

Sally Oldfield

Maddy Prior (she sang on JT's "Too old...")

Laura Basla (Tale cue)

Maire Brennan (if you consider Clannad as prog)

and many others whom I unfortunately didn't hear about.

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