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    Posted: October 20 2004 at 15:50

recommend me the essentials. I have dabbled in the genre a bit I like Porcupine Tree, Gordian Knot, Estradasphere, Karmakanic, King Crimson and Yes. As well as a lot of prog metal, Sun Caged, Opeth, Symbyosis, Lykathea Aflame etc.

So what should i start off with?
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  • Genesis
  • Camel
  • Caravan
  • Gentle Giant

 
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Originally posted by Paradox Paradox wrote:

  • Genesis
  • Camel
  • Caravan
  • Gentle Giant

 



Who for the most part represent the softer end of the prog rock scale.

 For four from harder end of prog rock:

King Crimson
Yes
Van Der Graaf Generator
Nice/ELP
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Marillion/Fish, Transatlantic, IQ for the more melonic/symphonic.

Dream Theater, Shadow Gallery, Queensryche ("Operation Mindcrime") for prog metal.
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2004 at 17:42

RUSH:-

2112

A Farewell To Kings

Hemispheres

Permanent Waves

Moving Pictures

Thumbs Up You get my drift?

 



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Check out ProgRock Records: http://www.progrockrecords.com/

 

They have a good selection and consistently sign new top notch bands.

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Tool and Pink Floyd
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You're all cracked, the best starter by far is:

Duh.

If you're one of the MILLIONS who have already heard it, I suggest:

YES: Fragile, Close to the Edge

PINK FLOYD: Dark Side (duh), Wish You Were Here, The Wall

GENESIS: Foxtrot
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I Suggest:

  1. Genesis: Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot
  2. Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here
  3. King Crimson: In the Court of the Crimson King and Starless and the Bible Black
  4. ELP: Brain Salad Surgery and Trilogy
  5. Kansas: Leftoverture and Song for America
  6. Triumvirat: Spartacus and Illusions on a Double Dimple
  7. Yes: Close to the Edge and Relayer
  8. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso. Darwin
  9. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick and Songs rom the Wood
  10. Magenta: Revolutions and Seven

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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 04:46
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

RUSH:-

2112

A Farewell To Kings

Hemispheres

Permanent Waves

Moving Pictures

Thumbs Up You get my drift?

 

This man knows what he's talking about. Be sure to check out the above. You will not be dissapointed.

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Then you should dive into:

Thats a shocking picture, sorry. Just to clarify thats 'The Lamb lies down on Broadway' by Genesis.
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Well if you can cope with guitars taking a back seat then the following are essential:

Van Der Graaf Generator

Gentle Giant

Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso    (Be quiet, all of you! I maintain that you haven't seen all prog has to offer until you've experienced at LEAST one Italian album)

and if you can cope with something a bit jazzy...

Caravan and Hatfield & The North

 

This is of course assuming that you've heard Close to the Edge.
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pink floyd definetly.

for prog metal you have to have dream theater. i suggest you get some mp3s on this site from images and words or scenes from a memory and see if you like.
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I'd recommend a bit of Arena, "Contagion" perhaps, for the reassurance that excellent prog is still being made today.
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I would also recommend 'DarkMatter' and 'Seventh House' by IQ to give you an idea of how old and new prog ideas can be combined brilliantly. DM came out this year, and SH in about 2000.
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am i the only one who doesn't like Dream Theater much?
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Paradox Paradox wrote:

  • Genesis
  • Camel
  • Caravan
  • Gentle Giant

 



Who for the most part represent the softer end of the prog rock scale.

 For four from harder end of prog rock:

King Crimson
Yes
Van Der Graaf Generator
Nice/ELP

That's interesting Dick. I can see where you're coming from with your distinction, but I would question for example whether Caravan are "softer" than KC or VDGG. I would however say those two were "harder" to get into, but I don't think that's what you meant!

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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 17:23
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Paradox Paradox wrote:

  • Genesis
  • Camel
  • Caravan
  • Gentle Giant

 



Who for the most part represent the softer end of the prog rock scale.

 For four from harder end of prog rock:

King Crimson
Yes
Van Der Graaf Generator
Nice/ELP

That's interesting Dick. I can see where you're coming from with your distinction, but I would question for example whether Caravan are "softer" than KC or VDGG. I would however say those two were "harder" to get into, but I don't think that's what you meant!

 

 

Did you spot my get-out clause "most of"?

 

I realise having read many of the enthusiastic reviews for some long term prog bands in Progarchives, which I never got into in a big way,  I've come to a half-formed conclusion that I prefer the heavier and/or jazz complex ends of the (multi-ended) spectrum. However, wrt of original bands listed  - with the exception of one - (i.e. the soft 4), I have several albums by each of them. Hence "half-formed" realisation.............................. A further example: I prefer the original hard edged Renaissance to the softer Annie Haslam band.
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2004 at 17:36
Just listen to ELP... it all goes down hill after that....
THIS IS ELP
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Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Just listen to ELP... it all goes down hill after that....
  TF - that could be read two ways - what was ELP's first album called?
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