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Winter Wine
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Topic: 78 - 80 Genesis appreciation thread Posted: February 11 2006 at 07:49 |
I love this period from Genesis. I got Duke a little while back and thought it was great, couple of uninteresting tracks but a solid, enjoyable album. Up to that point I thought it would be the greatest Genesis album after Hackett left, then I heard And Then There Were Three, and I have to say, I think this one is actually a little better!
I know there is a good chance I will be castrated for starting a thread like this, but I think those two albums deserve a lot of credit. I love the fact that they seem like such a hardworking band, Collins handles drums and Vocals excellently (The drums on Duke are amazing!) Rutherford handles bass and shows that he is a capable guitarist (but we already knew that, right?) and Banks gives us some excellent Keyboard passages, and from what it looks like, writes the more 'Progressive' tracks on the albums.
So is there anyone brave enough to admit that they like em too? ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 08:06 |
The self titled Genesis album from ...what was it '83 or so, has always
been a favorite of mine, and my only post prog Genesis album to
survive years of change in musical tastes and styles.
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Winter Wine
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 08:10 |
micky wrote:
The self titled Genesis album from ...what was it '83 or so, has always been a favorite of mine, and my only post prog Genesis album to survive years of change in musical tastes and styles. |
Interesting because yestersay I head both parts of Home by the Sea and thought, wow, that was good, but the drum sound was, oh god!! NO!
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 08:17 |
Winter Wine wrote:
micky wrote:
The self titled Genesis album from
...what was it '83 or so, has always been a favorite of mine, and
my only post prog Genesis album to survive years of change in
musical tastes and styles. |
Interesting because yestersay I head both parts of Home by the Sea
and thought, wow, that was good, but the drum sound was, oh god!! NO! |
hahahah... the main riff and Banks's keys are what suck me in on that one.
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 08:25 |
Winter Wine wrote:
micky wrote:
The self titled Genesis album from ...what was it '83 or so, has always been a favorite of mine, and my only post prog Genesis album to survive years of change in musical tastes and styles. |
Interesting because yestersay I head both parts of Home by the Sea and thought, wow, that was good, but the drum sound was, oh god!! NO!
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Still probably one of their best efforst post-Gabriel (Trick of The Tail takes that honour). I also like "Abacab" and "Duke". I am not ashamed to admit to that. Genesis evolved into a different direction more commercial but that was when I first started to take notice of them. Their earlier recordings have only started to grow on me in recent times and if it were not for some outstanding moments in "Genesis" such as "Home by the Sea" - I probably would have largely ignored their existence.
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 09:09 |
This only great album produced within this period is Duke. ...and then
there were three... is a failed project and a weak result
IMO.Overall,the fall of Genesis continues its slowly root...1978-1980
is still a decent period,but a dying one concerning Genesis.
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Winter Wine
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 09:37 |
Ricochet wrote:
This only great album produced within this period is Duke. ...and then there were three... is a failed project and a weak result IMO.Overall,the fall of Genesis continues its slowly root...1978-1980 is still a decent period,but a dying one concerning Genesis. |
To be honest Ricochet I cannot see how ..And Then There Were three is a weak album. The album has many excellent songs -
- Down and Out
- Ballad of Big
- Burning Rope
- Deep in the Motherlode
- Scenes from a Nights Dream
- The Lady Lies
Even the ballad type track Snowbound is quite good.
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 09:41 |
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 09:47 |
Techniccally this thread should be moved into the non-prog music section. Because Genesis ceased to be prog after 78, wheater you enjoy the music or not...
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 09:51 |
BePinkTheater wrote:
Techniccally this thread should be moved into the
non-prog music section. Because Genesis ceased to be prog after 78,
wheater you enjoy the music or not... |
I'm sorry,but that's totally not true...Genesis,as a band and
creation,is prog...the fact that this period's soft and mellow,and not
powerfull prog is of no importance...everything concerning Genesis
music...belongs here.
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 09:55 |
Ricochet wrote:
BePinkTheater wrote:
Techniccally this thread should be moved into the non-prog music section. Because Genesis ceased to be prog after 78, wheater you enjoy the music or not... |
I'm sorry,but that's totally not true...Genesis,as a band and creation,is prog...the fact that this period's soft and mellow,and not powerfull prog is of no importance...everything concerning Genesis music...belongs here. |
Well said Ricochet! ![](smileys/smiley1.gif)
*Whispers* And Then There Were Three is a great album! mwhahaha *High pitched laughter*
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 10:03 |
No matter how much you like them in t his period you can't call stuff like Invisible touch, we can't dance, or Calling all stations prog.
It good pop rock music, but not prog at all.
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 10:06 |
BePinkTheater wrote:
No matter how much you like them in t his
period you can't call stuff like Invisible touch, we can't dance, or
Calling all stations prog. |
are these included in the 1978-1980 period? ![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 10:07 |
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hahahhahahha.... I do love emoticons...
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 10:09 |
Ricochet wrote:
BePinkTheater wrote:
No matter how much you like them in t his period you can't call stuff like Invisible touch, we can't dance, or Calling all stations prog. |
are these included in the 1978-1980 period? ![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
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Well damn, you've thwarted me...
I'll go and kill myself,a nd never return here again.![](smileys/smiley19.gif)
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 10:11 |
BePinkTheater wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
BePinkTheater wrote:
No matter how much you like them in t his period you can't call
stuff like Invisible touch, we can't dance, or Calling all stations
prog. |
are these included in the 1978-1980 period? ![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
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Well damn, you've thwarted me...
I'll go and kill myself,a nd never return here again.![](smileys/smiley19.gif) |
well...
bye...
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 12:59 |
Good thread. For me there's no problem to admit. I've said it before and I will say it again: I really like And Then There Were Three and Duke ! Two high quality albums, high on emotion.
And Then There Were Three is my favourite album after Selling England By The Pound. Duke hads lots of good tracks too, and also lots of innovating ideas.
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 13:13 |
micky wrote:
The self titled Genesis album from ...what was it '83 or so, has always
been a favorite of mine, and my only post prog Genesis album to
survive years of change in musical tastes and styles.
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I totally agree with that. And I'm not ashamed to admit I kinda like a lot of post-Gabriel stuff from Genesis. Maybe it's not as proggy, but it is good pop-rock. It may not be as enjoyable as their prog masterpieces but it's great IMO.
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 13:16 |
Duke is a five star album, I have not heard ATTWT much, but I cannot
say it is really a bad album, really good tracks there. I have always
loved Phil Collins' Genesis, first album was We Can't Dance and I still
consider it as a five star album!! ![](smileys/smiley1.gif)
Anyway, Behind The Lines and Duchess might be the most beautiful beginning of any album, ever.
I mean how cannot you like them? The music is wonderful, Collins voice
have gotten much better since the last album and there is MANY strong
songs in Duke. I couldn't care less if the music is prog or not. Music
is music, good or bad! zik
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Posted: February 11 2006 at 13:16 |
Words Of Wisdom: If There Ain't No PETER GABRIEL There Ain't NO GENESIS!!!!!!!
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