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matti meikäläin 
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:25 |
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what do you think, do you like yes lyrics
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Cinema
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:29 |
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I personally love Yes' lyrics. Very metaphysical. Yes lyrics are a major part of
the mystic behind Yes music, especially on the classic albums like Fragile,
The Yes Album, TFTO, GFTO, Relayer, and Tormato.
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:32 |
Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?
There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it isn't truth either.
Iván
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Korova
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:34 |
 ivan_2068 wrote:
Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?
There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them
too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it
isn't truth either.
Iván |
I agree 
that's exactly what I think
Edited by Korova
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La Speranza della coscienza è forza
La Speranza del sentimento è schiavitù
La Speranza del corpo è malattia
(G.I. Gurdjieff)
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:35 |
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Hmm ... isn't this supposed to be a poll ...
actually despite owning more than 10 of their albums, I have generally disliked Yes lyrics quite intensely ...
although he can sometimes be evocative and surreal, Anderson often
sounds to me like he's pulling a con-job and is just
throwing together meaningless words ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:43 |
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i agree with you completely, maybe lyrics aren't so important in yeas music
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:57 |
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I can't imagine classic Yes music without Jon Anderson's lyrics. I
don't know the true meaning of "Close To The Edge" but the lyrics,
whether they're brilliant or meaningless twaddle, certainly give the
song that extra "something".
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R o V e R
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:57 |
I like YES lyrics;
It suitable for the music they Produce
I love – close to the edge
Gates of delirium
Heart of the sunrise
Roundabout
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:01 |
Korova wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?
There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it isn't truth either.
Iván
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I agree
that's exactly what I think
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... and what I think as well...
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zabriskiepoint
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:03 |
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Anderson chose the words for how they sounded not for their meaning.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:05 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Korova wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?
There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it isn't truth either.
Iván
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I agree
that's exactly what I think
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... and what I think as well...
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I've always thought that!
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:17 |
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The lyrics to the best Yes songs are almost all meaningless drivel, and it doesn't matter an iota because Jon Anderson can sing a line like 'And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace' and sound utterly convincing. When he tries his hand at a different style - That, That Is from Keys to Ascension for instance - he falls flat on his face.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:35 |
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yeah
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:44 |
I find them often either total nonsense or completely pretentious. However, I think that their music is hardly from the "deep and meaningful" school of prog (eg Floyd, Tull) and that they are trying to make the vocals fit and blend with the music rather than conveying a meaning.
I mean, for example, "Battleships confide in me and tell me where you are"? What on Earth is that all about??
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:45 |
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but i dont think the lyrics are really really important
if you dont know what they mean. Jon anderson was a good singer,
there's no doubt. i just think that the lyrics are not so important in
yes
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Legoman
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:03 |
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Amature.
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:11 |
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I don't care much about lyrics, I normally pay attention more to the music and the voice. yes lyrics are poetically good, but I don't understand them... maybe because they purposely don't make sense.
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:18 |
I listen to them for a pure poetic value. So yeah, they are important.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:23 |
Something strange happens with me, I don't like Jon Anderson's voice, but there's no Yes without his poetic but meaningless lyrics or his extremely high voice.
Drama is an excellent album, better than GFTO (IMO) but still don't consider it as Yes.
Iván
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Cinema
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:32 |
zabriskiepoint wrote:
Anderson chose the words for how they
sounded not for their meaning. |
Well, that's not entirely accurate. While Jon does indeed often select
words based purely on how they sound, and on how them sound with
other words, he also writes lyrics with very real meanings and stories
behind them. Examples of songs with definite meanings and stories
behind them:
The Gates of Delirium
Southside of the Sky
Show Me
Awaken
Perpetual Change
Animation
All in a Matter of Time
Surrender
Tony and Me
White Buffalo
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