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Topic: yes lyrics ( crap or good)
Posted By: matti meikäläin
Subject: yes lyrics ( crap or good)
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:25
what do you think, do you like yes lyrics



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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:29
I personally love Yes' lyrics. Very metaphysical. Yes lyrics are a major part of
the mystic behind Yes music, especially on the classic albums like Fragile,
The Yes Album, TFTO, GFTO, Relayer, and Tormato.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:32

Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?

There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it isn't truth either.

Iván



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Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:34
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?

There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it isn't truth either.

Iván



I agree
that's exactly what I think


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La Speranza della coscienza è forza
La Speranza del sentimento è schiavitù
La Speranza del corpo è malattia
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:35
Hmm ... isn't this supposed to be a poll ...

actually despite owning more than 10 of their albums, I have generally disliked Yes lyrics quite intensely  ...

although he can sometimes be evocative and surreal, Anderson often sounds to me like he's pulling a con-job and is  just throwing  together meaningless words ...


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Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:43
i agree with you completely, maybe lyrics aren't so important in yeas music


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:57
I can't imagine classic Yes music without Jon Anderson's lyrics. I don't know the true meaning of "Close To The Edge" but the lyrics, whether they're brilliant or meaningless twaddle, certainly give the song that extra "something".


Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:57

I like YES lyrics;

It suitable for the music they Produce

I love – close to the edge

              Gates of delirium

              Heart of the sunrise

              Roundabout



Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:01
Originally posted by Korova Korova wrote:

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?

There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it isn't truth either.

Iván



I agree
that's exactly what I think

... and what I think as well...



Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:03
Anderson chose the words for how they sounded not for their meaning.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:05
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by Korova Korova wrote:

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Why go to extremes like love vs hate or crap vs good?

There are middle terms, I don't like very much Yes lyrics, find them too ethereal and mystic, but I can't say they wrote crap because it isn't truth either.

Iván



I agree
that's exactly what I think

... and what I think as well...

I've always thought that!



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:17
The lyrics to the best Yes songs are almost all meaningless drivel, and it doesn't matter an iota because Jon Anderson can sing a line like 'And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace' and sound utterly convincing. When he tries his hand at a different style - That, That Is from Keys to Ascension for instance - he falls flat on his face.

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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:35
yeah



Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:44

I find them often either total nonsense or completely pretentious. However, I think that their music is hardly from the "deep and meaningful" school of prog (eg Floyd, Tull) and that they are trying to make the vocals fit and blend with the music rather than conveying a meaning.

I mean, for example, "Battleships confide in me and tell me where you are"? What on Earth is that all about??



Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:45
but i dont think the lyrics are really really important if you dont know what they mean. Jon anderson was a good singer, there's no doubt. i just think that the lyrics are not so important in yes


Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:03
Amature.


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:11
I don't care much about lyrics, I normally pay attention more to the music and the voice. yes lyrics are poetically good, but I don't understand them... maybe because they purposely don't make sense.

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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:18

I listen to them for a pure poetic value.  So yeah, they are important.



Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:23

Something strange happens with me, I don't like Jon Anderson's voice, but there's no Yes without his poetic but meaningless lyrics or his extremely high voice.

Drama is an excellent album, better than GFTO (IMO) but still don't consider it as Yes.

Iván



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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:32
Originally posted by zabriskiepoint zabriskiepoint wrote:

Anderson chose the words for how they
sounded not for their meaning.


Well, that's not entirely accurate. While Jon does indeed often select
words based purely on how they sound, and on how them sound with
other words, he also writes lyrics with very real meanings and stories
behind them. Examples of songs with definite meanings and stories
behind them:

The Gates of Delirium
Southside of the Sky
Show Me
Awaken
Perpetual Change
Animation
All in a Matter of Time
Surrender
Tony and Me
White Buffalo


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:34
With Andersons lyrics, the sound of the words are as important or even more important than the meaning. Its words as art if you like, splashes of colour over the soundscape. hey that was a bit like Anderson itself!...anyway, it suits thier music to a tee and wouldn;'t be the same without it...

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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 20:27
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

With Andersons lyrics, the sound of the words are as important or even more important than the meaning. Its words as art if you like, splashes of colour over the soundscape. hey that was a bit like Anderson itself!...anyway, it suits thier music to a tee and wouldn;'t be the same without it...


That's a better answer snowdog. Like em or hate is it Yes without them. I tend to think of Anderson as the lead instrument. And I love that reference to splashes of colour over the soundscape. There has probably been more thought go into Anderson's lyrics than other lyricist I know- these are not like rhythmic noodlings, words plucked out and pasted together into nonsensical form. Read them as a poem and you will see their true beauty.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 20:37

I personally find Yes lyrics fascinating

Specially Tales from topographic oceans, the lyrics are so good, full of beaty

And Yes lyrics are as important as Wakeman solos, Squire bass lines or Howe fills...!!!



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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 20:50

 

   I don't mind Yes lyrics but don't love them either. Their vagueness means that you can keep exploring them and maybe one day extract their meaning ( whether that is what they meant or what the Gods of inspiration meant )

 

   Would Yes work with more accessible lyrics. I don't think so.Things are how they are for a reason.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 00:39
Originally posted by zabriskiepoint zabriskiepoint wrote:

Anderson chose the words for how they sounded not for their meaning.


Exactly why I like them.


Posted By: Ultaigh
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 01:44
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

I don't care much about lyrics, I normally pay attention more to the music and the voice. yes lyrics are poetically good, but I don't understand them... maybe because they purposely don't make sense.

Same here, I'm mostly transfixed by their music than their spaced-out sometimes non-sensible, confusing lyrics.


Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 02:06
     I love early Yes lyrics, and think Jon Anderson did
something like Picasso and the modern artists did when they
freed painting fron its duty to portray reality like a photo,
Anderson's lyrics (as had long occured in modern poetry) freed
the text from expressing merely logically constructed,
semantically correct sentences. The results are sometimes
mixed, but it represents an exhilarating liberation of the sung
word that allows the voice to be used more as an instrument,
giving priority to musical rather than literary qualities (which
can be just as well read in a book).


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 02:32
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I personally find Yes lyrics fascinating

Specially Tales from topographic oceans, the lyrics are so good, full of beaty

And Yes lyrics are as important as Wakeman solos, Squire bass lines or Howe fills...!!!

I have the same opinion.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 04:18

Originally posted by Trotsky Trotsky wrote:

Hmm ... isn't this supposed to be a poll ...

actually despite owning more than 10 of their albums, I have generally disliked Yes lyrics quite intensely  ...

although he can sometimes be evocative and surreal, Anderson often sounds to me like he's pulling a con-job and is  just throwing  together meaningless words ...

I always had some problems with the absurd and surreally mystical lyrics of Jon too.

But I would not have liked him to sing about Hobbits and gnomes either!

Some of his texts are quite unpenetrable such as TFTO. But I would not call his lyrics insufferable either.



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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Genesisprog
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 05:02

   I dont know true meaning of Ctte-

  I read that song is separated to four seasons.Spring summer autumn winter. and lyrics are written by some book. Can some Yes smarter person can tell me.Some stuff I understand but not all of it.

 



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Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity-    I Love Them all !


Posted By: thrashaddiction
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 06:11

this is why yes are much more interesting than most bands...everytime you listen with the lyrics its a new experience....almost in a RUSH sort of way ..i do agree some of andersons lyrics do get kind of "what does he mean"...pearts lyrics are way more down to earth now...which you can relate too.



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