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Hemispheres
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Topic: Most Hated Prog Bands From Punks Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:40 |
worst prog band from a punks perspective
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:41 |
From a punk perspective.....probably ALL of them
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:43 |
lol i would hafe to say ELP
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:47 |
Punk try to kill progressive rock in the 70`s, I bet they didn`t know prog wouldn`t stay down for long ... long live progressive rock
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:47 |
I DONT HAVE IDEA... I DONT KNOW PUNKS MIND
BUT AGREED WITH PROGTOLOGIST MAYBE ALL OF THEM
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:49 |
I chose Tull. Folk is definitely not cool in the punk world.
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:49 |
Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey.
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:53 |
Genesis probably
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:58 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
From a punk perspective.....probably ALL of them |
Be sure to excluded the following....
Roxy Music
Van Der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill
Can
Neu!
Faust
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:58 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Genesis probably |
nah...ELP is the one most Punks hate; they were also John Peel's most disliked group...
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:59 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Genesis probably |
Post Gabriel probably...
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:00 |
With no doubt ELP and Yes, where the 2 most hated.
KC and VDGG where probobly 2 of the more respected, from what i have undrestod. but im no expert...
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:03 |
Syzygy wrote:
Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey. |
Biafra like Magma i guess i can kind of see the influence thats pretty cool Dead Kennedys are one of my fav bands i also read that Steve Hillage was good friends with Joe Strummer.
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:07 |
probably ELP, as they are the most pompous of them
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Empathy
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:09 |
It's a tossup between Tull and ELP. I had to go with Tull... Fragile
DT's right, folk is definitely not cool with the punks. Then again,
neither's classical...
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:11 |
Syzygy wrote:
Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey. |
Joy Division..
Peter Hook worshipped Hawkwind and cites Lemmy as his major influence...
Ian Curtis was responsible for introducing the band to Kraftwerk...
Barney Sumner loved David Bowie and also cites Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music as one of his influences...
Stephen Morris had many influences on his drumming, but the Jaki Leibeizeit influence is obvious...
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:16 |
Despite Johnny Rotten's imfamous "I hate Pink Floyd" shirt, he is not the prog hater that he potraited himself to be, while he could not get into Genesis (I read a quote that he listened to The Lamb and fell asleep) he really liked the disjointed non symphonic bands the most...
Kraut-rock bands usually have a lot in common with Punk bands...
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Syzygy
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:21 |
Charles wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey. |
Joy Division..
Peter Hook worshipped Hawkwind and cites Lemmy as his major influence...
Ian Curtis was responsible for introducing the band to Kraftwerk...
Barney Sumner loved David Bowie and also cites Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music as one of his influences...
Stephen Morris had many influences on his drumming, but the Jaki Leibeizeit influence is obvious...
Charles
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The list could go on and on - the big symphonic bands were not too popular among punks, but plenty of the more experimental prog acts were popular among the first wave of punk bands even if they didn't talk about it much in interviews - Zappa's more song based albums were popular, and Beefheart was almost as essential as the Velvet Underground. Henry Cow met future member of bands like the Buzzcocks and the Fall on their final UK tour.
Punk was more a reaction against the distancing of acts like The Who, The Roliing Stones, The Faces and The Kinks from their roots than it was against prog - despite what the hacks in the UK music press would have you believe.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:26 |
It was the lazy music press that tried to kill prog.
Trying to critique prog is like trying to critique classical or jazz. It takes a lot more effort to analyse a composition than a 3 minute song with words you can easily disiminate.
When they glorified punk and new wave as anyone can play, they also meant anyone can critique it as well.
With punk it was more time spent in the pub and less time working.
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:29 |
Punk was more a reaction against the distancing of acts like The Who, The Roliing Stones, The Faces and The Kinks from their roots than it was against prog - despite what the hacks in the UK music press would have you believe.
I remember reading in a magazine and then a special which mentioned this same exact thing, the Kinks were becoming conceptual, The Stones were doing Disco, The Who were becoming more bombastic...
Peter Weller is one of the few musicians associaited with the Punk movement, that cared for any Symphonis band... He bought Steve Hackett's Mellotron. Guest appeared on a few of Peter Gabriel's solo albums....
Mark E. Smith asides for Can, loved Syd Barrett, and early Pink Floyd
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