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TheProgtologist
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Topic: Prog Metal-Like It or Don’t Like It? Posted: October 28 2005 at 02:29 |
Due to all the debate over Progressive Metal in the forum lately,I created this very simple poll.
Either you like it or you don't,it doesn't get any easier than that.
Guess what I answered??
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 02:43 |
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Reverie
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 02:45 |
Well like anything i like some, don't like others. But i like some so yes is the ansure!
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cobb
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 03:43 |
Even some of us oldies love it
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 03:57 |
Er... could we have a "take it or leave it" or "it depends" option?
I'm not so closed minded that I dislike an entire genre, so do not fall either side of the fence.
I think that it's generally overrated for what it is, but it deserves top marks for having a go. More focus on the composition and creativity (ie the MUSIC) rather than the execution and production (ie the techniques and technicalities) would be a good start.
That's just one reason why I'd choose A.C.T. or Fantomas over Opeth or Dream Theater any day.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 04:01 |
i like some of the bands...but not the most popular ones
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 04:14 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Er... could we have a "take it or leave it" or "it depends" option?
I'm not so closed minded that I dislike an entire genre, so do not fall either side of the fence.
I think that it's generally overrated for what it is, but it deserves top marks for having a go. More focus on the composition and creativity (ie the MUSIC) rather than the execution and production (ie the techniques and technicalities) would be a good start.
That's just one reason why I'd choose A.C.T. or Fantomas over Opeth or Dream Theater any day.
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I think it's a good thing that the poll doesn't have a "I'm being indecisive" option ... if you like some Prog Metal bands, you like Prog Metal. Only if you're sure that you don't like a single Prog Metal band, you should choose the other option.
BTW: You have been very silent about my Prog Metal categorization project ... any thoughts?
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Pafnutij
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 04:25 |
Like it. Opeth rules.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 04:35 |
Too few choices. I would have voted for something like "it's ok, but overrated". And lately some people are trying to turn this site into a prog-metal site, which I don't approve of.
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mono
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 04:43 |
I would definitely say yes. I was into metal before i was into prog, and the combination of both is something I really appreciate.
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Kohllapse
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 04:50 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Too few choices. I would have voted for something like "it's ok, but overrated". |
It's not overrated , it just happens that a few bands ( I.E. Dream Theater) get too much attention.
BaldFriede wrote:
And lately some people are trying to turn this site into a prog-metal site, which I don't approve of. |
No, they are not trying to turn this into a "Prog metal" site .They are trying to better catagorize the archives , and make it easier to find what you are interested in. helping those of us who like prog metal and want to find new band/albums.
Give the guys credit , its deserved . Some of us actually appreciate people like Mike, Bryan , Jody etc. the ones who want to help this site grow ,and are making it happen.
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Kohllapse
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:05 |
BTW Im not saying that you arent appreciated BaldFriede. you are.
but why the animosity for those who like prog metal and want it on this site?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:14 |
Because the intitial approach already was wrong (and clearly is proof for my statement). Had the initial approach been: "I suggest that some of the major genrés become more organized. I volunteer to do that for prog-metal.", I'd be with you. But it wasn't. It was a mere suggestion of re-organization of prog-metal. Need I say more?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:25 |
Alright, I take the blame. I don't have a problem to admit that I want to promote prog metal.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:33 |
Yes i think prog metal is the only sub genre that could do with a bit of more accurate classification...symphonic prog already got a sub sub genre wich is not very helpful at all..as it does nothing to describe the music
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:37 |
It is not that I dislike prog-metal in general. There are some bands which are listed under prog-metal which I do like (Adagio for example), but these bands are also bands which I would NOT put into that category, if I had to organise this site. What irritates me most about some prog-metal is the pubescent attitude "Look what a strong and heavy guy I am!" If I were still a teenager it might probably appeal to me, but I am not.
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Phil
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:46 |
BaldFriede wrote:
What irritates me most about some prog-metal is
the pubescent attitude "Look what a strong and heavy guy I am!" If
I were still a teenager it might probably appeal to me, but I am
not. |
I agree with this sentiment. But as I've raved over Tool I suppose I should vote yes.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:46 |
BaldFriede wrote:
It is not that I dislike prog-metal in general. There are some bands which are listed under prog-metal which I do like (Adagio for example), but these bands are also bands which I would NOT put into that category, if I had to organise this site. What irritates me most about some prog-metal is the pubescent attitude "Look what a strong and heavy guy I am!" If I were still a teenager it might probably appeal to me, but I am not. |
i think both ayreon and fantomas are great and i don think they could fall into this category of just showing of...in general music is to be expressing peoples emotions...and if they are very agressive the music can tend to get agressive..although i dont like that kind of music
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:47 |
Adagio are an amazing band, very professional and ambitioned musicians and quite sophisticated songwriting. But they're not very diverse in their choice of musical "tools", it is mostly centered around classical piano parts and Power Metal. Initially I placed them in the Symphonic category, but like Symphony X they are very close to the traditional metal sound, that's why they're now in the Power/"Heavy" category.
Just out of curiosity: How would you describe Adagio - how would you "tag" them (multiple genres)?
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rockandrail
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 05:52 |
I don't like metal. At all! Though I like Hard Rock. Therefore, as regards Prog Metal, the least metal and the more prog the band will be, the more I will have a chance to like it.
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