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    Posted: October 01 2021 at 10:03
So this is kind of a follow up to my last thread, but anyways I like them because they're so melodic. Theres no one else like them.
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It's appreciation for the music that came from the early chemistry of the band (especially Latimer, Bardens, and Ward) Being mostly instrumental helped too, even though they could sing well. They knew the instrumentation was where it was at, and only added vocals where necessary. Nothing about those years was forced or inauthentic, just natural. They also did well with volume and intensity; stronger energetic parts, beautiful quieter parts, and everything in between. There's an art to making all of that flow.

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very emotional music and based mostly on simple melodies, not to say they didn't tackle complex stuff as well, but that didn't seem to be their focus.  While the vocals were rarely their strong suit, having several of them, and several songwriters, definitely helped.  At least in the early going, the guy singing was sometimes not the guy who wrote the song, so the chemistry was there for sure.  Finally, throughout their initial run, they evolved.  The first few albums might have been "classic prog" but Rain Dances and Breathless were quite daring while Stationary Traveller showed how new wave and prog could co-exist.


Just thought of something else - they weren't shy about finding a great riff and playing it to death.  Some regard that as a weakness but I like it


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The thing with Camel is either you like them or you don't. They're one of those bands where there's no middle ground. 

I think they're musically amazing. 
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Because I like their music.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 21:56
I always found their music . . . incomplete--as if something is/was missing. Even now, in my post-parenting period of prog rebirth, I find Camel music to be little more than interesting, even tolerable; definitely what I'd call "second tier" or even early "Prog Lite." To my ears, even syrupy albums like Focus' Mother Focus or Kalaban's Resistance Is Useless seem more complex and adept than Camel music. I can't explain why--and I've owned most everything they released--on vinyl--since the 70s. Nude and "Lunar Sea" are about the only things I'll listen to for enjoyment.


Not that I don't like Camel, I do, I just don't love them.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 02:23
'Like' is definitely about it and only the first four albums (of ones that I've heard) and mainly The Snow Goose which is unique. If they hadn't done that then I wouldn't care very much tbh. Obviously very high professional standards and useful they were all on the same page at the same time (many seventies prog bands weren't!)
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One word: Moonmadness.

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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I have a very personal connection to Camel, many of their melodies, that is really hard to explain. It's like that in music, to some things there is some direct emotional connection that goes beyond what can be described in "objective" terms. Latimer and Ward of course are great instrumentalists and the line-up with Bardens, Sinclair and Collins could play circles around pretty much everyone. They have their fair share of sophistication (where they wanted to - Camel never did complexity for complexity's sake and have many things that indeed are very straight) but for sure were never the most original innovators. Still they did/do something very special. 


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I agree with several here re: their melodic abilities, especially minor-key compositions, but I particularly like them because they have some of the best examples of that warm, sweet fretless bass sound (the first track of the Pressure Points live recording comes immediately to mind) - which is my favorite musical instrument.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2021 at 14:47
Great band. Probably the best guitarist I’ve heard. They’re in my top 5
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2021 at 07:34
I am the one in the middle ground on Camel. I really like the first four but just cannot connect with anything after those...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2021 at 07:38
Originally posted by Rottenprogger Rottenprogger wrote:

The thing with Camel is either you like them or you don't. They're one of those bands where there's no middle ground. 

I think they're musically amazing. 
I disagree. I like the first three albums, particularly The Snow Goose but nothing after Moonmadness has really grabbed me. I mean I don't dislike it, I just don't feel a need to listen to it.
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Because they have the best discography of any band and they have the best guitarist I've ever heard.
Is that a good enough reason?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2021 at 12:50
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Because they have the best discography of any band and they have the best guitarist I've ever heard.
Is that a good enough reason?

there is no such thing as "best discography of any band". It's all subjective. 
You can say they have a lot of great albums, that would make sense. 

You also sound a bit aggressive. Geek

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rottenprogger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2021 at 22:19
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Rottenprogger Rottenprogger wrote:

The thing with Camel is either you like them or you don't. They're one of those bands where there's no middle ground. 

I think they're musically amazing. 
I disagree. I like the first three albums, particularly The Snow Goose but nothing after Moonmadness has really grabbed me. I mean I don't dislike it, I just don't feel a need to listen to it.

That's fair and you're more than entitled to what you enjoy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yogev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2021 at 01:12
thats it? Camel gonna Replace pink floyd popularity? I see a lot of Camel post here lately. few months ago the forum was louded with pink floyd posts.

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Andy Latimer's guitar playing is reason enough for me
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rottenprogger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2021 at 04:12
After being blown away by Andy and Co's excellent performance on the recent LIVE FROM ROYAL ALBERT HALL DVD I completely agree with you. 

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