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    Posted: February 05 2020 at 08:08
Of these non-prog debut albums, which do you like best? 

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I don't know all of these, but where I see Ty Tabor I click so the Jelly Jam debut it is.
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I actually know at least half of the albums in this poll and it won't come as any surprise that I voted for Jimi Hendrix, seeing as I chose him as my avatar. Smile
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Don't know all of these but from the ones I do know, Brand X. 
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As far as I know The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X, Pat Metheny, Chick Corea and Steely Dan are all listed in Jazz-Rock/Fusion and hence considered to be ProgRock.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

As far as I know The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X, Pat Metheny, Chick Corea and Steely Dan are all listed in Jazz-Rock/Fusion and hence considered to be ProgRock.
Disagree. Did you vote? Or is your comment one of correction?
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I don't know all of these, but where I see Ty Tabor I click so the Jelly Jam debut it is.

Awesome album. Still my favorite Jelly Jam release.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

As far as I know The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X, Pat Metheny, Chick Corea and Steely Dan are all listed in Jazz-Rock/Fusion and hence considered to be ProgRock.
Disagree. Did you vote? Or is your comment one of correction?

I am just stating a fact. They are in the archives under Jazz-Rock/Fusion, whether you disagree or not.


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I don't know all of these, but where I see Ty Tabor I click so the Jelly Jam debut it is.
I've heard of most of the artists in this poll apart from Jelly Jam. Smile
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

As far as I know The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X, Pat Metheny, Chick Corea and Steely Dan are all listed in Jazz-Rock/Fusion and hence considered to be ProgRock.
Disagree. Did you vote? Or is your comment one of correction?

I am just stating a fact. They are in the archives under Jazz-Rock/Fusion, whether you disagree or not.
I don't care how PA defines prog. Jazz-rock/fusion will never be prog for me. Neither will Miles Davis, Black Sabbath, Bowie, or Metallica. All of those artist are in the archives and they are not prog.

I read some of your recent posts on getting Barbara D in the archives. Some of the reasons for not letting her in were absurd, but yet they let other artists, like I mentioned, in. Makes no sense to me, and either does calling Jazz-rock/fusion prog.
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^ Mahavishnu Orchestra and Brand X are without question prog rock through and through. Jazz elements don't disqualify them

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Steely Dan aren't though.
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^ i'd agree with that! Maybe they'd be better under crossover if they should be here at all. They are jazz-rock but seem too poppy to be where they are now

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There are blues, country, and artists from other genres that could be labeled prog. Les Paul, Chet Atkins, Danny Gatton, and numerous others could be in the PA archives. Where do you draw the line?
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^ no wonder you're grumpy if you can't understand why Les Paul is NOT prog and Mahavishnu Orch is! LOL

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ no wonder you're grumpy if you can't understand why Les Paul is NOT prog and Mahavishnu Orch is! LOL
At least I'm not an ass like you. The all knowing puPPy of prog.
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Dude, chill. Nobody has ever questioned that jazz-fusion is a valid form of progressive rock. Read all the definitions if you must. There is definitely a gray area that gets crossed on PA especially in the early days but the Mahavishnus and Brand X are about as prog as you can get in the context of jazz rock. That's pretty much universally agreed upon NOT my conclusion Wink

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BTW i voted Hendrix. THAT's one of the best albums EVER!

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

As far as I know The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X, Pat Metheny, Chick Corea and Steely Dan are all listed in Jazz-Rock/Fusion and hence considered to be ProgRock.
Disagree. Did you vote? Or is your comment one of correction?

I am just stating a fact. They are in the archives under Jazz-Rock/Fusion, whether you disagree or not.
I don't care how PA defines prog. Jazz-rock/fusion will never be prog for me. Neither will Miles Davis, Black Sabbath, Bowie, or Metallica. All of those artist are in the archives and they are not prog.

I read some of your recent posts on getting Barbara D in the archives. Some of the reasons for not letting her in were absurd, but yet they let other artists, like I mentioned, in. Makes no sense to me, and either does calling Jazz-rock/fusion prog.


Bowie, Black Sabbath and Metallica are under prog-related, because of their influence on other prog artists.
Bands like Sabbath, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Rainbow were an influence on what would become progressive metal.

Also Miles Davis deserves a place here just for his electric period music.
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