Not prog debut albums
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Topic: Not prog debut albums
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Subject: Not prog debut albums
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 08:08
| Of these non-prog debut albums, which do you like best? |
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 08:19
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I don't know all of these, but where I see Ty Tabor I click so the Jelly Jam debut it is. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 10:56
I actually know at least half of the albums in this poll and it won't come as any surprise that I voted for Jimi Hendrix, seeing as I chose him as my avatar. 
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 11:00
| Don't know all of these but from the ones I do know, Brand X. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 12:42
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As far as I know The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X, Pat Metheny, Chick Corea and Steely Dan are all listed in Jazz-Rock/Fusion and hence considered to be ProgRock. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 13:05
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BaldFriede wrote:Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 13:23
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Zep ------------- |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 13:33
Awesome album. Still my favorite Jelly Jam release.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 13:40
I am just stating a fact. They are in the archives under Jazz-Rock/Fusion, whether you disagree or not. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 13:42
I've heard of most of the artists in this poll apart from Jelly Jam.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 14:58
I read some of your recent posts on getting Barbara D in the archives. Some of the reasons for not letting her in were absurd, but yet they let other artists, like I mentioned, in. Makes no sense to me, and either does calling Jazz-rock/fusion prog. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 15:52
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^ Mahavishnu Orchestra and Brand X are without question prog rock through and through. Jazz elements don't disqualify them -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 18:23
Steely Dan aren't though.  ------------- |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 19:32
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^ i'd agree with that! Maybe they'd be better under crossover if they should be here at all. They are jazz-rock but seem too poppy to be where they are now ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 20:14
| There are blues, country, and artists from other genres that could be labeled prog. Les Paul, Chet Atkins, Danny Gatton, and numerous others could be in the PA archives. Where do you draw the line? |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 20:24
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^ no wonder you're grumpy if you can't understand why Les Paul is NOT prog and Mahavishnu Orch is! LOL ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 20:40
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 20:51
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Dude, chill. Nobody has ever questioned that jazz-fusion is a valid form of progressive rock. Read all the definitions if you must. There is definitely a gray area that gets crossed on PA especially in the early days but the Mahavishnus and Brand X are about as prog as you can get in the context of jazz rock. That's pretty much universally agreed upon NOT my conclusion ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 20:58
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BTW i voted Hendrix. THAT's one of the best albums EVER! ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 06 2020 at 00:11
Bowie, Black Sabbath and Metallica are under prog-related, because of their influence on other prog artists. Bands like Sabbath, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Rainbow were an influence on what would become progressive metal. Also Miles Davis deserves a place here just for his electric period music.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 06 2020 at 03:18
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^Les Paul was a huge influence to anyone who played guitar. He created one of the most iconic guitars ever. And he developed many of the techniques that formed the backbone of modern music recording, including multitracking, overdubbing and tape effects. Seems to me that influence is greater than any prog-related artist currently listed on PA.. As for Miles, his Kind of Blue album, which is superb, is in the PA top 100 albums of all time. It is not from his electric period and is not Jazz-rock/fusion. It is absurd to label that release as such. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 06 2020 at 03:44
| Hendrix! One of the all time best debut albums! |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: February 06 2020 at 06:22
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The Van Halen debut is a great album. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |