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Kotro
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Topic: Mostly Autumn - Fakes or Greats? Posted: September 12 2005 at 04:22 |
I've read older topics on Mostly Autumn's qualities or lack of them. However, there wasn't a valid argument on either side explaining why they are so good or bad. They have been called the next big thing. However, seven years have passed since their debut album, and still few know them. Others regard them as fakes, bad musicians with false publicity (like the Pink Floyd comparisson). Others just regard them as a nice but almost amateur band. Their music is accused of being unoriginal and repetitive, and above all, boring.
For me, I have to say I enjoy this band a lot. I would't dare to call them the future of prog (like Wobbler have been called, IMO quite fairly), just as I would never dismiss their prog sound.
I do admit to prefering earlier albums to recent efforts (although I haven't heard The Last Bright Light, apart from some songs of the album that I eventually caught live). The later albums are all becoming, to my ears, more hard-rockers than prog-rockers. This, however, does not make them mainstream.
As for the musicians, I personaly hail Bryan Josh as one of my favorite guitar players, although I admit his voice did lower the quality of a lot of the songs, as oposite to Heather Findlay's singing (however, on the last MA album Josh seems to be singing a lot better, in a different tone).
As for the music, MA are acused of dragging the songs for ages, and of hiding cheesy ballads with a 2 to 5 minute guitar solo. Actually, I don't disagree. And I like that. I only wished some of my favorite moments in prog, such as some Genesis and Floyd's songs, could go on and on. Because to me, thats what MA are capable of doing. Extending the pleasure of listening to good music.
Other opinion is that you have to see MA live to really be a fan. This summer I had that chance, despite allready being a fan and having purchased some albums and a couple of DVD's. And I have to say that, at a time when I was feeling disappointed about their musical directions, that concert really lifted my spirits up. To this day I regard it as the best concert I ever attended, and the best on I ever saw, If one includes recorded or televised concerts.
Please be free to comment on this band. I hope this poll will provide clarification on Mostly Autumn's true status on the Progressive Rock world.
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goose
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 06:29 |
Pretty good, but not something I'd listen to all that often. I love Shrinking Violet though. By which I mean the song, of course ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Politician
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 07:10 |
They're not a bad band, but not a great one either - pleasant melodic
rock with a few minor progressive touches. The occasional cut has shown
the potential to do far more and produce something genuinely
progressive, but for the most part easy-on-the-ear neo-prog seems to
be their bag.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 08:08 |
I find them really boring!
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Logos
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 08:12 |
I love their music but it's not like they're the new Pink Floyd or anything!
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 06:19 |
Scr*w objectivity, brilliant band ![](smileys/smiley32.gif) ![](smileys/smiley32.gif) ![](smileys/smiley32.gif) !
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 06:42 |
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Kotro
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 18:54 |
Well, at least none of the Mostly Autumn true haters bothered to vote.
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King of Loss
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:20 |
Where is the Very Good button?
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 02:36 |
I kinda like them, but they aren`t very prog.
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 09:22 |
I like'em a lot.
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Jared
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 11:22 |
Yeah, I like them as a concert band (I've seen them at least 4 times, I think)...and owned their first few albums, but found I didn't listen to them after a while...they seem to fall into the Iona camp, in that they are good, but not really prog enough for me....
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progmaniaczka
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 08:38 |
As far as i am personally concerned- I like them very much! Their music may be seen as pretentious and boring, but it always depends on Your approach towards them. Besides, saying that they are as dull as ditch-water is equivalent to alleging that Pink Floyd is nothing more than 'cheerlessness' ![](smileys/smiley18.gif) (since we can find loads of influence of PF in MA pieces)
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 10:41 |
I'm reserving judgement at the moment. I got "Storms over still water"
expecting lots of prog-folk with female vocals, violin and flute but
they seem to have gone all metal. It's good in places but not
brilliant. I guess I need to go back to their earlier stuff.
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ProgFan
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Posted: April 19 2006 at 12:55 |
A really brilliant band
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: April 19 2006 at 13:08 |
Absolutely the best band currently active. A live performance is unforgettable (especially their Christmas party at the Lion at Blakey).
No, they are not the next Pink Floyd, and should stop trying to be. They are the first Mostly Autumn and that's great. IMO The Last Bright Light is easily the best album recorded by anyone in any genre since 1976, just about flawlessly perfect in every respect. The Spirit of Autumn Past is not far behind. Some of their later stuff is less consistent, but I have enjoyed it just the same. When Heather Findlay sings, God listens, and Bryan Josh has composed some of the finest bits of prog ever. Pretentious? Less so than Yes, ELP and many other bands who attract (deservedly) much praise on this site. And unlike Dream Theater, Rush and other much-revered bands, they are happy to be called prog.
Oh, and I hadn't heard of them until I joined this site despite living in York (where they come from) for 27 years. They deserve more publicity. Because they're worth it.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: April 19 2006 at 20:50 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Absolutely the best band currently active. |
Totally agree! Unique band.
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Posted: April 19 2006 at 21:53 |
I like them...Good albums and great music
i think they are an average band
boring and pretentious, for me no
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The Ryan
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Posted: April 19 2006 at 22:02 |
Well there's not a section for a little bit of everything, is there?
Mostly Autumn is very hit and miss, although clearly their last few albums show their Fleetwood Mac side much more than their Pink Floyd side. Maybe they'll change again!
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